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webp is absofuckinglutely inferior to JPEG-XL and that one is where you actually have that problem. I’m literally providing an avif-fallback on my website, because otherwise pretty much no browser would support anything.
(Speaking of it, avif is also superior to webp.)
I’ll take ASCII art over webp.
miss the days when I could watch the entire matrix movie on ascii before BitTorrent and streaming
Some dude ran a public telnet server, which upon connecting, would present to you the entirety of Star Wars: A New Hope in ASCII. It was glorious.
The true best form of image storage. Nothing beats .txt
Avif, the only one that I hate more than webp. 😞
Why? It’s definitely better than webp, even if google’s chrome team uses it to justify not including JXL.
I recognize that avif and webp may have their uses, but for me they are a nuisance every time I encounter an image in those formats.
JPEG-XL is loads of bollocks.
for my use cases of memes or a PowerPoint type thing once in a while for school. Literally any image format works for me. I don’t care about quality (as long as it’s not REALLY bad) and just want to get the image from Google to the PowerPoint, and somehow GOOGLES own image format fails to work for GOOGLES PowerPoint product.
I don’t understand how you can not support your own format 10 years after it came out.pro tip by the way, you can open it in Microsoft paint then “save as -> .PNG” to get Google slides/whatever to accept it.
(before someone recommends alternatives, im talking about use on a locked down school computer. I can’t use alternative software that’s better because they block images in WIKIPEDIA, no shot for using an actual foss software lmao)
use on a locked down school computer.
Shift + Win + S
I’ll bet they didn’t disable that in Group Policy. Lasso that sumbitch right off your screen and then just paste it into whatever.
Paint trick would leave the option for higher quality, a screen grab leaves you at screen grab resolution.
True, but I’ll wager most of the things people are filching for these purposes get displayed on the screen at 100% scale anyway. Unless you’re sniping a picture for large format print, in which case I figure you’d probably be under less restrictive conditions… Hopefully.
You don’t even have to open it in Microsoft paint, you can just save it as a new format from the standard image viewer software.
Plus, it makes a bunch of users resort to adding extensions to their browser such as
“Save webP as PNG or JPEG 1.5.4”
which is fine but absolutely not as secure as without extensions.
Ask your boss if you can install GIMP
fucking Telegram automatically converts any webp sent in a message to a fucking sticker
I didn’t want that. I want the ability to view the image, including zooming in and panning, and telegram forcing it into a sticker kills that completely
I came to bitch about the same thing.
This looks like the most relevant bug on Telegram’s bug tracker for the issue: https://bugs.telegram.org/c/4360
Thanks, I thumbs upped it.
Whatsapp is marginally better but outside of regular sms texting I fine Facebook messenger to be the best.
Now don’t get it twisted, it’s still shit just the best of the shitty messaging apps.
I wouldn’t know, I don’t use any facebook shit
You apparently use telegram though. A platform that only recently instituted safeguards that prevent child exploitation. Congratulations? Maybe consider using some facebook shit instead.
Ah yes, facebook never exploits children. /s
Ya… Like for marketing and shit telegram had literal csam…
They arrested a bunch of people…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_and_indictment_of_Pavel_Durov
I don’t doubt it, and Pavel seems like a nazi fuck anyways.
But it has fuck all to do with why I don’t use facebook software.
Fair enough. I don’t use Facebook either so… I hear ya.
Wait am I the only one who actually likes WEBP and is cheering for JPEG to finally die ? 😭
Webp can die. JpegXL is better in every metric and can losslessly compress existing jpeg images. The chromium team has been notably trying to kill JXL because they spent so much time on AVIF and Webp despite neither offer anything close to JXL.
If webp didn’t come from google I might cheer it. I refuse to adopt any standard made by google if I can help it. If google made it, they made it with some reason or ability to alter it that’s nefarious and anti consumer. They wouldn’t make an improved open standard that wasn’t going to allow them to do shady shit.
They made it because better image compression means less storage is required for images. Even if it’s a small upgrade, over trillions of images or exabytes of data saved translates into millions of dollars saved. This is the same thing for the delta format as another example
By making .webp an open standard, more people will use it, thus more space savings will be had by default
That makes it sound like webp is the only option, it isn’t.
I’m sure Google literally doesn’t care, as long as a more effective compression algorithm is used. That’s why they made it an open standard, use whatever you want but don’t demonize .webp unnecessarily
Use whatever you want, but remember Google gets to decide what Chrome supports and if Chrome doesn’t support it…
I’m sure google doesn’t …
Said everyone who’s never experienced google doing google things.
No, I’ve heard there is dozens of you, dozens!
in my honest opinion, it’s a real shame that webp isn’t widely supported. it’s actually really great: it has awesome lossless compression, it’s so much smaller than a png while not losing any quality, it supports animation and loops, etc. it’s like jpg, png, and gif rolled into one format.
it’s like jpg, png, and gif rolled into one format.
and therein lies the problem.
one tool should do one thing, and do it well.
The giant jpeg square artefact on the side of Homer’s head in the first frame undermines the message somewhat.
I’m not sure that’s a JPEG artifact. It looks more like a video compression artifact (since the image is probably taken from a video).
Wait till this guy hears what videos are made of
lol there’s a specific AVI format based on JPEG, but other file formats use different algorithms
Pretty much all compression algorithms work similar to JPEG. The newer formats only add even more crazy maths to the mix, but the base is pretty much the same.
Real men use .ico
skill issue
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Yeah, man, gotta use mozjpeg.
How many people that are clinging to JPEG are also hating anti-AI people for being “Luddites”?
It seems I pissed off the right kind of people yet again.
“Anti genAI? Move on with the times, boomer!” and then “Why is image not deep fried and can’t be opened in Real Shit Movie Editor 2003?”. (Note: genAI is boomer technology.)
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This has been an ongoing problem.
Happened to me literally last week
unless they recently changed it you can’t add an image using GOOGLES image format in GOOGLES PowerPoint thing
I recently put in a lot of hours for a software system to be able to handle webp just as well as every other image format it already accepted. I put in a lot of work as well. Hadn’t heard about it for a while, but saw the feature release statement for the new version I knew my changes were in. It wasn’t on there. So I reached out to my contact and asked if there was an issue or did it get bumped to a later version or what? So she told me the marketing team that do the release statements decided not to include it. They stated for one, people already expect common formats to be handled. Saying you now handle a format looks bad, since people know you didn’t handle it before and were behind the curve. The second (probably more important) reason was nobody knew what webp even was and it’s only something technical people care about (they probably said nerds, but my contact translated). So no regular customer would be interested and it could only lead to confusion and questions.
I hope somebody is happy with the work I put in tho. Somebody is going to drag a webp into the system and have it be accepted. Someday… I hope…
The only ones reading the changelog are nerds anyway
a bit related.
Was working for a comparison engine. Back in the day things where slow. But i made it lightning fast. Pretty proud.
Untill a few weeks later the manager comes up, and tells me to make it SLOWER!
apparently users thought it was suss that it was so fast and the results therefore where fake…
Let me introduce you to good old speed up loops.
That marketing team is a bunch of absolute morons. Handling Webp would have made the comapny trendsetters.
- Fuck those people for telling you this after you did the work
- Those reasons are hard-stop stupid. If they REALLY cared about the marketing they’d release it silently or add a “improvements to image format handling” line and leave it at that.
I will second the suggestion at something like “expanded support for more image formats”. One of my responsibilities is rolling the development log into customer release notes and I agree with the “changes that highlight a previous shortcoming can look bad”, and make accommodations for that all the time. I also try to make sure every developer that contributed can recognize their work in the release notes.
“Expanded image format support” seems like something that if a customer hasn’t noticed, they would assume “oh they must have some customer with a weird proprietary format that they added but have to be vague about”. If it were related to customer requests, I would email the specific customers highlighting their need for webp is addressed after pushing the release notes
Maybe I worded it incorrectly. The feature was released in that version. They just didn’t mention it in the release statement they put out to their customers. I’m sure there’s some changelog somewhere people can dig into where it says something like what you mentioned. Or it can just be under “Various small improvements” which they always add as a catch-all.
So I’m happy, I did the job and got paid. Everyone I worked with was happy. And the feature got released. It’s was just a let down it didn’t get mentioned at all, even though I put quite a lot of work into it.
I hope somebody is happy with the work I put in tho. Somebody is going to drag a webp into the system and have it be accepted.
And that was me! I mean, not with your software but with someone else’s years ago. Still, in a weird anachronistic karma sort of way, thank you for caring.
I appreciate it! Thank you
Just change the file extension to *.png. Works every time.
Unironically it will work as @Thorry84@feddit.nl and a bunch just like him has put in the work to Just WorkTM
Why does this even work though? WEBP and PNG are very different file formats yet for some reason this has always worked for me as well. Is windows automatically converting the files? I haven’t checked if changing the file extension changes the file size.
WebP is an extended container around the RIFF file format, and contains the RIFF header info. So any container that is built off RIFF, or supports RIFF, can at least interpret the container data that is RIFF compatible and will lose anything that has been extended upon.
surprised_pikachu.webp.png
Wait till you find out what’s inside when you change Office files from .***x to .zip
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i have a “save webp as” firefox extension that is good as well… sorry no link Im too busy
peace and love peace and love
sorry no link Im too busy
Got a chariot race to win or something?
That’s what the movie Ben Hur was about, right?
spoiler
yes… well, its about this guy, you know? his name is ben hur, and his childhood friend from rome comes back to and ben hur wont help him take over his homeland. then tiles fall off of this roof and then the roman guy uses it as an excuse to jail ben hur’s sister and mother to get him to help, but it only makes him freak out. so, he gets consigned to a slave ship where there’s a battle and he saves his captor’s life, which endears him to his captor, so the captor takes him back to rome where he ranks up a bit and has high status as a horse racer in the colosseum. ben hur leaves to go find his old roman buddy and take revenge, and he meets this arab horse trainer (played horribly embarrassingly by a white dude in brown face) and they make friends. ben hur goes back and basically fucks his old slave woman, then challenges the roman dude in a massive horse race where he basically kills him. turns out all this time the mother and sister were in prison they contracted leprosy, so ben hur goes and gets them from the leper colony. jesus is crucified nearby and his blood drips off the cross and cures the mother and sister of leprosy.
its three and a half hours long. its super campy and over-acted. it used to be on tv when my wife was a kid and now we get high and watch it around easter. its fuckin hysterical…
It’s probably this one and it’s fucking great and has a button to copy directly to clipboard in the format of your choice
oui, merci
Fuckin why
the situation the meme describes?
It’s a format meant for web browsers. If you want your web browser to ignore performance and focus on universally reusable images, I guess. But that’s me making leaps not in the “meme”
It’s beautiful, thank you.
