Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The mayor of Vorst, Belgium, has officially banned an upcoming Disturbed concert, citing public safety concerns stemming from frontman David Draiman’s outspoken support for the Israeli army – namely that one picture where he’s signing missiles that’ll kill people shortly thereafter.

Disturbed was scheduled to play Vorst Nationaal on Wednesday, October 15, but the plug has now been pulled following a police order issued by Mayor Charles Spapens (PS) according to De Standaard.

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        6 months ago

        Grotty. Guy probs got divorced because she didn’t understand the literal extent of the band’s name when marrying him and thought those tendancies were fixable.

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        Earlier this year, he divorced his wife of 12 years, Lena, and his dog, Gabriel, died.

        There’s got to have been a better way to write this…


        Kept reading and

        As for rising antisemitism, Draiman is equally concerned. “How can you not be worried about it?” he says.

        For real for real.

        Referring to some Democrat politicians, he says: “They pretend to represent everyone when they don’t. It’s very scary how they keep on stirring the pot of antisemitism on a daily basis, …”

        Hard agree. I don’t follow American poli too closely, but your Democrats sound super conservative.

        under the guise of being social justice warriors, with no repercussions.”

        ???

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          As an American his very first statement is suspicious. The second statement basically proves he’s too far right. The last statement is naked maga. Obviously these are American shibboleths so it makes sense not to immediately get what he’s about.

          For example, our conservative Democrats (neoliberal subset) are not the ones that are speaking out against the Israeli genocide of Palestine. The “antisemitic” politicians are more leftist. Maybe not left by classic European standards, but left by modern European standards.

          But also, we have a long history of people hating Jews. We had people marching against “Jews replacing white people.” Jewish space lasers! Soros!! People fucking HATE Jews. I won’t even bother saying what party they are attracted to. I’ll leave it as an exercise for the non-American reader.

          But… that’s not being played right now. Our fascists are saving the “anti Jews” card. We hate Mexicans right now. If an American says “antisemitism is on the rise” I’d strongly suspect they are simply pro Israel.

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          https://disturbed.fandom.com/wiki/The_Guy

          The Guy is the mascot of Disturbed. He has appeared in several albums as the “cloaked character” on the cover art, and in music videos as the “hero” that ends up defeating large corporations or armies alone.

          A character consistently depicted as going against the rich and powerful commanding the media and armies to provide some semblance of justice and liberty to the masses… And the front man was all in on the IDF operations at least as late as second half of 2024. I might have seen it in October of 2023 when some might have assumed the IDF were going to be surgical, but indiscriminate bombing and famine inducing siege had already happened by summer of 2024…

          I could maybe even give him the benefit of the doubt that he was in a bubble and oblivious to the wider issues, but after being booed and called on by the media to examine the situation closer to comment, he double downed at a point that should have been eye opening.

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    Am i the only one disturbed by the fact that he is clearly signing 155mm artillery shells and not missiles, like the claim in the headline??? Like i get that people like to rage about shit but at least get the point right.

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      It’s kind of ironic too because missiles would be more accurate than firing artillery shells into a concentration camp.

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      6 months ago

      Here’s the definition of a missile in case you’re confused.

      An object or weapon that is fired, thrown, dropped, or otherwise projected at a target; a projectile.

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        noun noun: missile; plural noun: missiles

        a self-propelled weapon that carries an explosive warhead and is directed by remote control or internal equipment, launched from the ground or by an aircraft or submarine.

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      Yes, you are.

      The point, that you ironically got wrong, is that he is signing munitions being used by a genocidal military force and that lost his band a gig.

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      To me it raises questions. Seems I’ll have to do some research about it. As one should do always because truth and context matter with these things.

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      I don’t know what you think the point of the post is but it isn’t about the distinction between artillery shells and missiles

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      6 months ago

      It’s like if Rage Against the Machine were actually very much on the side of the machine.

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        Their old Deify song is very on point now. Dude could’ve became the voice of despise about the current admin, but instead he got one (1.0, single, singular, SOLE, O N L Y) strong political opinion and it is that one. What the fuck.

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      They are missiles in the sense of being flying projectiles but those look like 155 howitzer ammunition.

      Still shitty but you’d think someone would check accuracy.

      Ed: definitely are, that white writing tells you everything you need to know. They are Israeli 155.

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        It’s not the most important distinction, but I do agree that we gotta be smarter than that. Maybe we just teach people the word “munitions” and move on.

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    6 months ago

    Disturbed makes boring-ass mediocre metal anyway; his vocals are so dull. Good riddance.

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    6 months ago

    I don’t get how their cover of Sound of Silence is a top video on Conans Youtube channel. It’s not that good.