• Randomgal@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    Meanwhile Democrats: The files bro, trust me bro. King Piggy has full veto power but trust me bro the files will end facism bro.

  • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    TW: suicide???

    An autopsy report seen by Newsweek showed Ge was found tied with a bedsheet, with linens around his wrists and ankles in what the report described as a “hog-tied” position. The medical examiner noted that there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar, and that there were no obvious defense wounds.

    Am I missing something here? How does someone hogtie themselves and then hang themselves? How is this being considered a suicide? Am I on crazy pills?

    • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.orgBanned
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      Put your head in the noose, tie your feet, tie your hands, probably using your mouth to pull the knot, and then do the drop. The reason for this would be to beat survival instinct.

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        Yes, but it describes it as hog tied, which is your feet ti d to your hands behind your back. I don’t think I could hog tie myself, let alone hang myself after.

      • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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        I’ve got ehlers-danlos and I am experienced with self bondage. Tying my own hands behind my back is not easy for me, let alone the average person.

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        How do you tie your hands behind your back with your mouth? Especially when your neck is in a noose?

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          5 months ago

          By using a slipknot. Ultimately it depends on the knots used and the order they were tied in, but it’s technically possible.

          Is it probable or likely? Absolutely not.

      • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yes. I’ve also heard of Hanlons razor. Just because a philosophical concept exists doesn’t mean it’s universally applicable.

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          Well, while we’re on the topic here… I’m way more okay with applying Occam’s razor than Hanlon’s in this particular circumstance.

          Normally I’m the first to advocate for patience and generally assuming the best of people. So I really do wish that anything about this seemed like negligence or ignorance, but with this administration, all I can see is malicious intent.

    • drzoidberg@lemmy.world
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      It’s not uncommon in Russia for people to commit suicide with a couple gunshots to the head, and then jumping out the window.

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      The “nothing ever happens” crowd is doing their best to ensure that, while everything happens, you remain passively accepting of it.

      We can round up people into death camps while our president has clearly raped children. Just as long as you keep going to work and “feeling crazy” thinking no one cares.

      The place you won’t feel crazy is around other like minded people that ARE doing something. If you’re not working with a group like DSA, PSL, Mutual Aid groups, or hell, even your local anarchist group, you should be.

      If you feel crazy it’s because you are for not doing anything. There is nothing crazy about what is happening to this country. It is textbook fascism mixed with the non action of liberals pretending to be the opposition to it. And that right now comes in the form of “pointing at bad thing” to give you a false sense of security in your inaction.

      Even the comments here are filled with it. The doomerism that keeps us all from acting.

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      5 months ago

      I imagine there are legal issues with reporting anything other than the official cause of death that Newsweek don’t want to get into so they just laid everything out nice and factually so that readers can come to their own conclusion…

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        That’s not an excuse. If our news media isn’t brave enough to call a spade a spade they are nothing more than a tool for complacency. Which they are.

        A free and independent media would not be afraid to point out that a suicide as an “official” cause of death here is bull shit. That’s not something covering their ass legally. I swear people don’t know how US lible laws work. Saying that is clear freedom of the press. And it’s really sad that we all started to pretend that the news medias job is just to repeat the words of the powerful.

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      there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar

      nervous laughter What the fuck.

    • ⓝⓞ🅞🅝🅔@lemmy.ca
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      I literally just copied the same exact passage intending to ask the same question here. I’m not understanding how this is feasible.

      This is absolutely tragic, regardless of the answer. But… how is this even possible?

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      Oh I know, wasn’t this on Sherlock Holmes? They stood on a giant block of ice. When the ice melted, they were fatally hanged and the evidence disappeared

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      David B. Rankin, the family’s attorney, in a statement to Newsweek: “It is truly mystifying how any detention facility can let someone leave their room, create three nooses and then hang themselves without anyone knowing. What’s worse is the lack of mental health care which could have prevented this tragedy. Mr. Ge’s death represents a totally failure on the part of the GeoGroup and the DHS.”

      Seems like everyone is playing along with the claim of suicide while trying to get the details from DHS/GeoGroup.

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      It’s the same sense that Epstein “committed suicide.”

      A lot of people seem to “commit suicide” who were inconvenient to this Admin

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        The insane part is, as stated in the article, even the family’s attorney is saying “how could you let someone get out of their cell, and tie three separate noses to hang themselves?”

        What in the fuck, how is his not automatically determined to be foul play? NOT EVEN BY THE ATTONREY SUING THE DHS

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      Are you tired of having to appear by zoom before a judge in the Hague every time you assassinate a suspected spy?

      There’s gotta be a better way!

      Seriously though wtf is this bullshit? Did you see the fucking weird ass shit they’re trying to pin on this guy?

      Who the fuck “hog ties themselves?”

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    What the fuck will it take for people stand up and say no more. What has happened to this country. This is inhumane, what was his crime, just existing and trying to make his life better

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    He’s found hog-tied and hanging, and it’s declared a suicide?

    It also said that several others have died in a similar manner.

    How does someone who is hog-tied commit suicide? And how does it get to be a common method of suicide?

    The more likely scenario is that they tie up people in this manner for some reason (torture, punishment, entertainment) and if they die, they report it as suicide, and nobody questions it.

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    Why is everyone ignoring the possibility that that he was an illusionist?

    This man was obviously performing escape magic and failed during the final death defying illusion.

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    They are floating a balloon here. Will cities erupt in flame? Or… are they paying attention… let’s roll the dice and see if we can get this party started…

    I hope they are not thinking that way… but this is an order of magnitude worse than their usual behavior. Has to be part of a larger strategy.