“Fcking bitch,” Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who killed Renee Good, says in the video.*
A newly released cellphone video, apparently filmed by the ICE officer who killed Renee Nicole Good, and obtained by Minneapolis-based Alpha News, a conservative-leaning nonprofit news site, appears to sharply contradict the U.S. government’s public account of the fatal Wednesday shooting, raising new questions about whether the agent who opened fire was ever in immediate danger.
The footage was recorded on a cellphone by ICE officer Jonathan Ross, not by a department body camera. It captures Ross’s own perspective as he approaches Good’s maroon Honda Pilot during what the Department of Homeland Security claims was a federal operation in south Minneapolis.
Not surprising that the evidence contradicts the administration’s claims, because they constantly lie.
No it doesn’t. - MAGA
Yeah… All the responses to that Twitter post were in defense of ICE… Incredible.
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She had been this for years. years!!! -MAGAcucks
The term “hate” can be misleading. When used in a hate crime law, the word “hate” does not mean rage, anger, or general dislike. In this context “hate” means bias against people or groups with specific characteristics that are defined by the law.
At the federal level, hate crime laws include crimes committed on the basis of the victim’s perceived or actual race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
Most state hate crime laws include crimes committed on the basis of race, color, and religion; many also include crimes committed on the basis of sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, and disability.
https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/learn-about-hate-crimes
Say it with me: ICE officer Jonathan Ross and his accomplices are guilty of at least murder and hate crimes, and possibly more.
That video is tainted. No custody of evidence. The shooter had 48 hours to edit the video.
Sync up the video /audio to thwle dozen others and see if things line up? How much time was removed from the phone?
If the video conveniently “proved” his claims of self defense, you’d have a point. But it clearly doesn’t. It shows he murdered her and his claims of self defense are a blatant lie. You’re literally arguing “well maybe it was self defense because the video could have been edited by the PERPETRATOR to not show it was self defense”. Like wtf?! You’re arguing that the dude purposely edited the video to make himself look worse.
It still could be used as a argument by the right in that way.
And it would be a dumb fucking argument considering the 3-4 other videos that all corroborate this one. Stop being retarded and proposing half-assed “what-ifs”. Besides the fact that him editing it would be tampering with evidence and IS ITS OWN CRIME. Yeah, he’s just gonna admit to illegally tampering with the video to make himself look worse to create reasonable doubt… when other videos clearly show the incident as well. Ffs, I know these people are morons but you’re taking the cake.
There is really no need to use slurs.
Yeah, I don’t subscribe to that euphemism treadmill bullshit. Maybe save your outrage for things that are actually offensive, like our government murdering people in cold blood, not fucking words. This neutering of our language is bullshit and yes, some things are fucking retarded and need to be called out as such. Trying to defend the shooter here is fucking retarded. I stand by what I said.
And this is why liberals hate other liberals. Were discussing a fucking murder and you’re over here complaining about language. Unless you’re this perfect idealized liberal, other liberals will take the time to bring you down instead of the much more pressing and bigger issue.
Seriously, fuck off with this retarded fucking shit. We NEED words for when things are so ass backwards and anti-logical. I’m not gonna sit here and wish that we “unalive the meanies”. Grow a fucking spine.
It is immoral, ignorant, and shortsighted but i fail to see how it has anything to do with retardation. If you arent using that term clinically, which is antiquated these days anyways, then you are using it as a slur. Which is very unnecessary. I’m not mad but i do think our use of language matters. Your use of that word also makes you look shortsighted and ignorant. Your defense of it makes you also look immoral.
Edit: my point being we already have much more descriptive words for this and the use of slurs makes you look just a ignorant as them.
Now go make yourself useful and kill a fascist
“I’m more concerned about someone’s language usage than actual issues”. That’s you, crying like a baby over a word. You sound like a retard.
Few arguments:
My cousin has downs, she’s retarded, but isn’t an idiot, she’s lovely to be around. Using a word that describes something she was born with to describe the negative choices someone has made is insulting.
We do have other words to describe when things are so back-asswards and anti-logical. Hell, make up your own completely new word, use some creativity.
Just because there’s a larger issue, doesn’t mean we should ignore a smaller issue, especially when the smaller issue is so fucking easy to solve. It’s like not cleaning your bathroom because racism exists.
And then the new word becomes taboo when someone misses that. It’s the Euphemism Treadmill. Like first sentence of my post. But obviously you’re too retarded to read that part. I don’t play that bullshit game. It’s… (wait for it)… RETARDED.
And then the new word becomes taboo when someone misses that. It’s the Euphemism Treadmill. Like first sentence of my post. But obviously you’re too retarded to read that part. I don’t play that bullshit game. It’s… (wait for it)… RETARDED.
Also, dont call me a fucking liberal. Yall are bunch of politicucks.
Liberal
Im not saying the video proves innocence. It can be manipulated and still not help the officer. The fact is ICe/magazine arent the smartest people and I would challenge that video on the basis of custody alone.
And again, arguing custody would be arguing AGAINST the shooter. AT BEST, it would get the video thrown out and then we’d just look at the 4 other videos that all show the exact same thing. It literally doesn’t help, at all. It literally only would add a charge of tampering with evidence.
Pro-ICE voices (not necessarily people) think that the video supports the white house claims. The leaked site is right wing, and Vance shared it saying people should watch it.
It’s crazy that this video seems to be such a Rorschach test.
Yeah I’m pretty sure their take on it is “her gay leftie lover made him feel threatened”
Aka setting the "don’t worry, she wasn’t ‘one of us’ " distinction for the MAGAtts
Say the words. He called her a “Fucking bitch”. Stop fucking censoring language, especially over something like this. If the words offend you, GOOD. You should be fucking offended. (I know OP just reposted the articles censoring - this is directed at the article more than OP)
This would have been true sooner than this point in the regime but this event is the flashpoint, if I find out that any of my relatives or family members are ICE thugs I would dox them in a heartbeat.
Why is an ICE agent filming with a cell phone?
They have these for facial recognition I think?
So he could get another murder boner later.
Desperate for some “owning the libs” footage
Dr Phil and his crew can’t come to them all
He wanted a memento of his first premeditated murder.
Very unlikely to have been his first. Spent time deployed in Iraq, and had quite the composure, to keep the cellphone in hand as he murdered her. Especially considering he was injured last year in a similar scenario.
Based on a recent stint in court, all the officers I saw had both a body cam that recorded AND a cell phone in a front facing pocket that could also be used to record.
The phone’s on his hand. You can see it in other videos
I mean he wasn’t going to jerk off right there was he?
I would be completely unsurprised if one of them was caught doing that.
Because they’re all fascist shitstains.
For the fans.
Only for them?
It’s weird that they’d release it.
Her last words were something like “I’m not mad” and his were “fucking bitch”.
It looks doctored to me.
For one thing they made physical contact which we know didn’t happen. For another, it’s 47 seconds long.
I did see physical contact in another video.
It looks like the corner of the car is up against him, but he put himself there and she was clearly turning away from him. Then he just pushes himself off the car as she is turning and shoots her.
Nope. It looks like it, but another angle shows it never got anywhere near him, and his first shot was after jumping back, anyway. And also, this video shows him approaching AS IT’S MOVING.
I’m not disagreeing with him putting himself on that position. I am not defending this murderer at all, but I don’t think it is helpful to claim there was no contact when there clearly was.
I’ve seen three videos now and the other two both appear to show contact. Those are the view from above and in front, down the street. It’s quite poor quality but seems to show the killer against the car as it moves away; and the view from behind, which is better quality but a worse angle. It also looks like he was touching the car/contacted by it as it moves off.
It worse, they truly believe it supports their version of the events.
What’s absolutely bonkers is the DHS went out and immediately called her a domestic terrorist. Our tax dollars paid to kill her and post propaganda on x defaming her.
They had to immediately make that call.
Anyone with even an ounce of brain matter sees the true story, but the Trump camp needed to quickly twist the facts to keep the MAGAts on their side and slathering at the mouth.This murder is 1000x worse, but the narrative is exactly the same as the ‘immigrants are eating people’s pets’ bullshit.
All 100% untrue, but the Trump people will continue to lie, double-down and shout their version of the story at every possible moment to drown out the real truth. Which is, they are full of shit, and they know they are full of shit, but they can’t risk showing even the slightest crack in their hold on power, as warped as it is.If you’re a Democrat your car immediately becomes a lethal weapon are you must be stopped by any means necessary - if the pedestrian is a Republican.
If you’re a Republican you may use your vehicle to kill any Democrat under any circumstances.
There’s no attempt to reconcile these two conflicting opinions…from a knuckle dragging Fox viewer to SCOTUS.
They think this is a definitive proof that she tried to kill him. They’re saying this is body cam footage and that him putting his phone down to grab his gun was him getting hit. They’ve already forgotten every other video out there.
I wish his last words were that.
These morons think this proves they’re right. Vance retweeted the video as said this
“Watch this, as hard as it is,” Vance wrote. “Many of you have been told this law enforcement officer wasn’t hit by a car, wasn’t being harassed, and murdered an innocent woman. The reality is that his life was endangered and he fired in self defense.”
The Party told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
- George Orwell, 1984
Then don’t actually believe that. They just don’t care. They’re taunting everyone who isn’t outright evil.
I’ve never wanted to punch someone square in the face quite as much as Vance while watching his press conference. The level of disingeniuty and vileness from these people is somehow still shocking, and I didnt think I could be surprised by how low they could go anymore
TIL “I’m not mad” is a death threat
Yup, they don’t even see the same reality we do. As if his camera shaking was proof he was in danger.
It’s not hard for them to see the actual explanation, but they have no interest in finding it. Maybe it was shaking because he moved slightly out of the way (which the other video clearly shows) he was firing his gun? No? Right-wing Twitter just wants to feel right and not think too hard about it? Okay.
I grew up in a family full of cops and as a kid / teenager I was taken around on ridealongs in the 80s / 90s with family members. I’d be shocked if that’s kosher now, but I’m glad it was something I got to experience back in the day.
I will never forget watching cops just get out of the way and let a person of interest or suspect drive off. They’d do that, and like clockwork, say “no one outruns Motorola.” (Motorola was the wireless giant at the time.) It wasn’t worth putting lives at risk when you could just knock on that person’s door at a later date.
This guy wasn’t doing anything by the book. He was escalating, approaching a moving vehicle, he had his firearm in hand, etc. People are literally trained NOT to do everything this guy did. It puts everyone at risk. The officer, the driver, bystanders, etc.
I think these people are so far down the rabbit hole that they don’t even realize that their narrative is bullshit. Nobody in the Administration looked at that video and said “shit, we have a problem” because they’re all True Believers and think they are right about everything.
Reminds me of videos from Iraq and Afghanistan and how it made yankistanis so proud of extra judicial killings. Similar to how ISIS did for innocent people.
So out of touch with empathy.
They’re literally in a death cult.
Yes, they are ‘true believers’, if you wanna phrase it that way.
Thats… how fascism works, you make up what functionally constitutes a religion, based on mythic narratives revolving around blood and soil, which mentally place the adherent into the role of a religious extremist, fighting for their perverted idea of ‘justice’.
r/conservative full on believes this video DesTrOys tHe LIbS and exonerates the officer.
r/conservative is full of morons
And bots, and Russians.
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They’re only allowing their flaired bots to post in that thread. But I have no doubt magat trash see what they want to see.
Exactly, I’ve seen people on their side saying this video makes the victim look bad…
These people are too far gone.
Some people need an enemy or they can’t make sense of the world. I’m not talking about a run of the mill competitive streak, they simply can’t understand society as anything other than a struggle for dominance. If they don’t have some sort of conflict to focus on, they make one just to quiet the cognitive dissonance they’re feeling.
I don’t know if it’s learned or innate, but it makes people easy fodder for conspiracy theories and the sort of high-functioning sociopaths we’ve been electing recently.
I saw a video recently covering the proliferation of body cam YouTube. A side-conclusion was that in most of the most viral “Karen does xyz,” the “Karen” is a racist conservative that voted for Trump, sometimes they even inform the officers of their voting choices. A person like that freaks out because the system they voted for is affecting them, when they thought it affect the “bad people,” of which they, of course, aren’t. They’re good, they don’t have a previous criminal record, unlike those “other [colored] people.” Some of them even said that part out loud.
It was obviously said better in the video, but it made a lot of sense to me, and it makes even more sense when we see these peoples’ role models doing the exact same thing; insisting they’re right when they clearly are not.
Or course they don’t. The only consistency in their narrative is their incessant need to be right. They say she tried to run ICE over, you show that’s not true. They pivot to she shouldn’t have been running away from the scene of the crime. You tell them there was no crime, they pivot to ICE had a right to detain her. Tell them ICE actually has no right to detain citizens they’ll say how they don’t actually know the law, they can only give their opinion and then loop back around to “she tried to run them over” so she’s in the wrong.
They’re not interested in getting to the truth, they’re only interested in being right. Since they only care about being right they also don’t care about being internally consistent. They will accept whatever contradictory bullshit as long as it means they’re right.
Bingo. Also called “moving the goalposts”.
I wonder why we still don’t have the footage from Good’s wife.
I think she feels guilty for egging them on and probably feels responsible to a degree. Also, probably listening to her lawyer about when / if to release it.
Also, probably listening to her lawyer about when / if to release it.
I’d suggest it’s entirely that.
Yeah if I were in her shoes I’d save the footage for court. Don’t want the court of public opinion influencing jurors ahead of time.
That is of course assuming he gets charged as he should.
the US or perhaps the world needs a reboot button
Nuke everywhere from space.
Anarcho-Posadist praxis
Fallout TV series is mostly about that. Reboot buttons just incentize wealthy gamblers.
The Red Coats should march back in and press reset.
Edit: removing so prevent misinformation
Someone linked elsewhere, it’s odd but there is an actual T-rex statue there stomping a car, an art piece in the neighborhood.
I saw the T-Rex in other videos. It’s a decoration.
Which reflection?
Oh, in the back of the car. I think it could be the wife, she’s walking.
Yeah, it’s the wife, you can see her face in the back window
I was confused about the reflection when the camera was frozen and pointing at the license plate but the reflection showed the murderer walking, but I’ve been told I was wrong about most the other stuff so that’s probably wrong too.
We need more self-defense (or community defense organizing, if you prefer) classes now more than ever (and fast). For Renee Nicole Good.
“There’s a new video?! Well then…let’s invade…oh…I don’t know…Bermuda!?”
Edit: these guys think I’m way off so removing to avoid spreading misinformation. I thought the video might have been faked with AI, but my proof was not conclusive
Th T-Rex appears in many other videos. I think the walking person is the wife, the angles seem to match, and if you look the the back window just above the moving legs you can see her face. I don’t see anything wrong with the windows on the houses.
You should refrain from posting opinions that are THIS unqualified.
To be clear, I am giving you a LOT of credit by assuming that you are just stupid and not an active fascist apologist trying to sow doubt about an obviously genuine video.
Edit: see above parent comment
You are a shill that picked a frame in which the stickers are hard to see and acted like they are not in the new video when they plainly are. You are fabricating evidence to push an agenda.
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It’s time to stop posting.
It might be, these last 2 days have me really on edge
Me too, friend. Absolutely sickened. May you find peace this evening.
Are you posting this to prove that your earlier comment was incorrect because we can all see that its the same car, or do you see something else here?
Edit: see above parent comment
Except they aren’t, you picked a frame in which they are hard to see, which is how I now know that you are a shill. Everyone who has seen the video knows that the stickers you talk about are perfectly visible in the new video:
Sorry, replied to the original post instead of replying here https://lemmy.world/comment/21466457
Are you finished posted misinformation or do you need another person to point it out for you?
Lol this is literally flat-earth logic. The glass is curved
I didn’t think it was that curved but I was about everything else so I’m probably wrong about that one too
The rear window is curved. You can’t see the stickers because of the angle.
Even if there was 4k 360° video of Renee being murdered by this scum the Trump administration would still side with the murderer.
An incident like this is great for MAGA. This is how you find who is truly loyal. The loyal ones will back your cockamamie story to the hilt, and parrot it loudly, often, and with conviction, no matter how indefensible it is.
This separates out those who still have some vestige of morals that can still be reached by an atrocity. Those people are untrustworthy, and must be purged. They want people who will cheer when they massacre peaceful protesters.
Exactly right. I work with a bunch of ride or die maga dick riders and it’s been interesting seeing them over the last year. When the Epstein cover up started last year they all got really quiet and stopped talking about Trump for a good part of the summer and ends of the year. Then he bombed Venezuela and then Renee getting murdered has got them all foaming at the mouth for violence and killing now.
Then you should ask them about Taco’s best friend Epstein at every opportunity.
I have from time to time and they all say the same thing. “It’s all fake and a democrat hoax!” They are perfectly brainwashed cult members.
“FUCK YEAH! THIS is what I signed up for!”
That’s pretty much what they said the day after the Venezuela attack. Another thing they like to say now is how we are all gonna be rich because of the cheap gas prices.
You should ask them about the peace prize and how he was going to supposedly be the peace president.
I don’t really get how the conservatives that supposedly lost it over W and Iraq, but came back for Taco because “war bad” (yeah right) can keep all that cognitive dissonance straight?
The fact is that W’s big failings on: the economy AND Katrina AND Iraq made them feel bad because liberals were getting proven RIGHT. They needed a brief timeout, pretended to be for the made-up astroturfed “teabagger” movement (later rebranded the “tea party” when they realized everyone else knew what teabagging meant, and it made them look gay, not like they were some alpha males getting one over on Obama) and there were a lot of very sudden “independents” among us. So they did that brief timeout thing, then came roaring back and went ballz deep on being a Republican when Taco gave them a permission structure to escape their culpability for all of W’s failings AND a permission structure to be openly racist, misogynist, etc…I don’t think they really give a shit about wars of aggression being stupid and a drain on our society, nevermind morally objectionable, they just hated that the liberals were all proven correct about Iraq.
They still call Donny the peace president and that he brought peace to the Middle East and he is saving America. It’s hard to have an opposing view when it’s just me vs 9 other people at my job. Most of the time I just listen to them and laugh to myself.
It’s those types of situations where I put on my “just asking questions” mode, LOL. Stuff like “how does it count as ‘peaceful’ to be invading cities and states of America, using ICE? How does it count as ‘peaceful’ to be sending in people to kidnap another country’s leader? What would we do if another country did it to us? Donnie says he be glad to accept the Nobel Peace Prize from the winner of that prize, is that how prizes even work? Or is that just Donnie’s participation trophy? In what other case has anything like that ever happened, and the second-hand recipient of a prize ever considered a legitimate owner of that prize?”
It absolutely drives them nuts, especially if they expect to get a rise out of you. I don’t get mad, I don’t raise my voice. I don’t lecture or finger-wag. I just ask more questions; turn their answer around on them, ask them how that makes them feel, how they arrived at that line of thinking, how they personally think any of Taco’s worst behaviors and policies will benefit them as individuals in their everyday real, non-online lives, etc.
I do it mostly to plant seeds, though. People tend to just dig in more if you get oppositional. If you ask questions, and don’t get angry, it definitely changes the energy.
Here in Central Florida, the gas price pattern has been consistent for at least two years. It will drop down to about $2.90, maybe even a bit lower, and then on Monday or Tuesday, it will go up to $3.19 in nearly every single gas station in the area. Then it starts to slide down, and when it gets to around $2.90, it jumps back up to $3.19. Every time, for a few years now. Clearly, the prices are totally fixed.
But lately, since affordability has become the most serious drain on MAGA chances in the Midterms, gas prices have been lower. I just returned from a trip over the Holidays, and has is down to $2.70, or even lower.
Obviously, DeSantis is doing his part by forcing gas prices lower somehow, but rather than give him credit for helping out, that begs the question: If they could have lowered prices, why didn’t they do it before it started to get them into trouble?
Immediately after the Vemzuelan attack, gas companies said that instability in the oil market was going to cause high prices (which happens anytime a dolphin sneezes near an offshore oil rig), and usually that means the very next fucking day. I expected prices to leap to at least $3.50, but they didn’t.
Obviously, they are manipulating the gas prices, to fight the affordability issue. To counter that, I’d like to remind everyone that the average price of a new car is now over $50,000, with a monthly payment over $750. They are now offering 8 year loan terms.
BTW, cars have now become a viable, and acceptable living option. I just read about a college that is building a parking garage for student living in their cars. They could have built a residence hall for them, but better to teach college students that living in your car is a good career strategy, along with taking out tens of thousands in student loans for an education that won’t lead to a single job.
What were we talking about?
Oregon gas dropped below 3$ in some places for the first time in a long while. Oversupply is lowering prices, tightening things for domestic oil producers https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/consumers-love-cheap-gas-but-the-oil-patch-will-pay-the-price/ar-AA1TMcpu
This is the point. They don’t care.
The goal of releasing the video wasn’t to prove the NKVD agent was innocent, it was to prove that the victim was a white liberal lgbt urban woman and thus deserving of death.
