Donald Trump has said that he will withhold funding for New York City if presumptive Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani becomes mayor after November’s general election and doesn’t do the “right thing.”
If only there we’re an opposition party who would finally get off their ass to back people like Zohran and finally take shit seriously. But “it’s their turn” so that party doesn’t fucking exist.
Just FYI: withholding money is financial abuse, a favorite tactic of abusers, since it leaves no visible marks until significant damage is done.
I’m so tired of people not telling this old bunch of shit sacks to fuck off. I’d have so much respect for any threatened tRump victim if they just told him the fuck off after shits like that.
Threatening to withhold money from a place that gives you the most money doesn’t seem like a smart idea.
If New York and California don’t give them their money, the Federal Government isn’t going to have money to withhold.
That’s what abusers do, too. They will cut their own throats to make you squirm.
What a pathetic pile of garbage excuse for a human being. Just fuck off.
Good thing New York doesn’t need it and provides money for the federal government. It’s more like New York will stop till they get their shit together.
Another way to escalate this situation is to raise the taxes on billionaires enough to account for the missing revenue from the federal government. Itemize it and call it the “Trump tax”.
Seize all of Trump’s assets in NYC
Excellent idea. Dems would be foolish not to do this.
What does New York pay to the Feds? Dr into people pay taxes and that goes to the Feds? So how can a city or state stop that.
There are two different thoughts on how how to do this. Restructure federal tax so that it is paid to the state along with your state income and then the state simply withholds from the fed. The other is that states simply refuse to enforce any sort of federal collection or enforcement of unpaid taxes.
You’d think that even with as delusional as they are, the establishment Democrats that are also taking shots at Mamdani would be able to see how much the Republicans are scared of him and the weapon he is. They’ll still fuck it up, but it couldn’t be more clear the path they should follow.
This is how the president responds to the democratic process…
I am so glad this guy is scaring the everloving fuck out of the right and the DINOs. I want a legion of folk just like him to run for office in every state and every office so we can sweep away the remnants of the old guard.
This sounds like more of the “socialism never works [because conservatives/capitalists sabotage it]”
If a system doesn’t work when it encounters opposition, it doesn’t work.
Ok then no system works because any system can be sabotaged. Democracy can be subverted in various ways. Making a sandwich can be ruined by any number of methods. That’s not a useful way to look at the world.
Can someone share some insight with us non Americans, how close are you to a civil war? Between the LA protests and this it seems very imminent
I am very skeptical of the notion we are anywhere near an actual shooting war despite all the turmoil. Both sides would have waaaay too much to lose, especially red states, which derive huge amounts of funding from blue states (basically, blue states provide federal revenue while red states tend to use it up).
At the moment at least, people have too high a degree of comfort to actually get off their asses and start physically fighting. Things would probably have to get a lot worse before we really see that happen.
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I think people are more pissed off and divided than they have been in a very long time. It’s hard to say how close we are to a civil war, though. There’s been a lot of propaganda for a long time saying “violence is not the answer” (even though sometimes it is), and “violence has no place in our system of government” (even though the government abuses its own monopoly on violence to imprison and kill innocent, peaceful people).
It feels like the media in the US is less reliable than it’s ever been in my lifetime, and would probably suppress as much as possible any information that would support open rebellion.
I predict with immigration crack downs we’ll eventually see some more resistance to that. At some point, either by ambush or chance occurrence, ICE agents will be attacked and possibly killed. Trump will horrifically overstep in his response. Then it will just be escalating responses.
Not very close, despite the online rhetoric. Life continues and our feudal lords play their games.
If things continue to get worse and another lunatic succeeds Trump, I think talk of secession will start to gain more traction in the West. But even then, it would take something really major (and not something the Lemmy politics crowd considers major, but something that actually snaps average liberals out of their comas) to garner enough support for it to actually occur.
Western secession would be an uphill battle; it’s just as likely we’d lose an armed conflict with the rest of the country, and an all-out war would be absolutely terrifying.
I mean they’re arresting citizens with brown skin now so not too long before being a democratic registered voter is a crime.
It will come, a lot of us are anticipating it. For now the important thing is that we cannot give them reason to start massacring people.
The fascist uses debate to waste time. The resistance uses that time to waste the fascist’s time. The regime got a lot done in 6 months, but we’re still on here communicating freely. I can still go to the store, buy candles, paper, glass bottles, foam, gasoline, storm matches, lighters, nails, hammers, tape, twine (which actually makes me wonder why do I not have rope?).
The problem with the fascist mindset is that it will reach a point where they see everyone as a threat. And the goal is for everyone to be a threat by then.
There likely won’t be bloodshed until the president is assassinated.
At this point it’s in the script
Still seem very unlikely to start a war (plus, given his track record of would-be assassins, they’d probably be right wing anyhow).
That won’t matter. It could be Don Jr doing it live and on camera and it would still get spun an an anti-fa trans brown immigrant leftist plot and a certin 40% would believe it with their orange little hearts.
Not so sure about that, some certainly would, but even if it was disregarded by everyone, people are way too comfortable and complacent to give up their relative safety to start an actual war.
Politicians have already been assassinated. The ones from minnesota.
It’s not even close
It’s a “cold” civil war currently. And one side is just submitting and rolling over.
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Eh, bread and circuses. People are still relatively comfortable and complacent.
Except we can barely afford the bread and circuses right now. This is true of people like me that 5 years ago thought they were doing really well…
Even impoverished Americans have a relatively high standard of living, globally speaking. People are struggling, but they generally have a roof over their heads and don’t have to eat their pets. We’re not where we should be by any measure, but we’re also nowhere near the levels of desperation that push people to armed revolt.
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There will be no war because there’s no one to fight it. The organizations that an armed resistance might coalesce around simply don’t exist, and Trump’s camp is entrenched enough to easily strangle any nascent movement in the crib as soon as it begins to arm itself.
Not anywhere close, in my opinion. People have these ideas that only right wingers have guns and red state vs. blue state but my conservative relatives who live in the country and hunt are afraid to go to cities. They ask me all the time if I’m nervous living in one and there’s a school bus stop by my house where kids get dropped off.
A related point is that in the last Civil War, there was a somewhat blurry but pretty clear regional divide. Now, it’s an urban vs. rural divide. I live in Orleans Parish (aka county) in Louisiana and we went 82% for Harris/Waltz, roughly the same as Manhattan. I’m pretty sure California had more Trump voters than Texas. If a gun brawl breaks out, it’s going be local and contained.
Also, what’s Meal Team Six gonna do in a real battle? Most Trump voters are like 60+ years old and watch Fox News all day. Nobody wants the smoke.
The active duty military is already in 3 border states with arrest/search powers in what is called a militarized zone. They claim it is border states but… the actual places they are stationed are not just at the Southern border.
https://www.npr.org/2025/05/06/g-s1-63778/military-border-zone-posse-comitatus-explained
How will the federal government move forward if California & New York withhold their federal taxes?
New York & California are the real US’s incomes.
No, she can’t win. She is a great politician, but Trump has a 100% success rate at beating women presidential candidates. I actually suspect the DNC is doing it on purpose.
Oh, and yes … barring death or illness the dictator Trump will be going for a 3rd term.
She?
Not sure what happened. This was a reply to a post saying AOC would be the best Dem presidential candidate.
First day on this new Voyager Lemmy App since Jerboa died … tis wonky.
Jerboa died? I’m using it right now on Android…
No clue what happened to mine. It just stopped.
Voyager is fine but not especially surprising you can’t figure it out
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He will die first. He is old, unhealthy, demented and shitting himself on the regular and is literally incoherent.
They said much the same about Putin and - regardless him being in better initial shape than Trump - he’s still around.
Being old and unfit means less event you’ve got money for top-notch healthcare and people willing to ignore (or take advantage of) your physical and mental decline
you have to wake up, the election wasn’t your fault
that is how you know he is the right candidate, Trump is an inverse indicator
I predict Mamdani and Trump will have similar arcs through the media landscape. The media hated Trump but just couldn’t stop paying attention to him, even though every time they attacked him it only made him stronger. Now they are all bending the knee to him.
The same exact thing is happening with Mamdani, but this time for all the best reasons. Mamdani’s campaign might easily become a nationwide avalanche.
Why would liberal media ever bow to a socialist? The capitalists will always understand socialism as a greater threat than fascism.
For the same reason they speak in reverence of Martin Luther King Jr. and pretend that liberals didn’t hate his guts back in the day.
On a long enough time scale the left always wins, and liberals always pretend that they backed the left the whole time and claim the victory for themselves.
“A liberal is someone who opposes every war except the current war and supports all civil rights movements except the one that’s going on right now.”
might easily become a nationwide avalanche
Anecdotally, I have fairly non-political coworkers in other states that are hyping up Mamdani. His reach across Gen Z is honestly insane and people are even making TikTok/Instagram hype edits of him all the time
Imagine someone good drowning out Trump in the media.
I kind of doubt that Zohran will have the same arc, since he’s campaigning directly against the vested interests of the owners of our major media outlets. I could see him becoming an outside force too large for them to ignore, who ultimately forces them to change tactics, though.
At the moment, he’s an outlier of a candidate for them to try and beat down, and the mainstream media will fight tooth and nail to keep him that way, since him inspiring a broader insurgency of proper leftwing candidates to challenge “progressive” establishment Dems represents an existential crisis for them.
A successful term as mayor for Zohran could well sound the death knell for them if it leads to either a Tea Party style takeover of the Democrats, or produces enough momentum to lead to a proper third party that unseats the Democrats from their position as the GOP-lite party of controlled opposition. Imagine what could happen if those media organizations had to face a properly funded public broadcasting service, for example, that gained broad purchase amongst the public.
I think my explanation to another reply explains it.
Mamdani is fucking AMAZING, I’m from the UK and I’m hyped xD
You can tell the quality of someone’s character by the enemies he makes.
Hopefully he also makes more friends and helps gain momentum to get the rest of the goons out in other jurisdictions
You know what??? NY will survive. We survived prior to the Revolution. We survived after the Revolution and before the Constitution. We will continue this… and honestly, the FEDS do fucking nothing for us and why do they deserve to be paid??? They are fucking loafing political lying fucks. Fuck them and fire them.
Fuckin’ A.
Then join hands with New England and the west coast and starve them back, because that’s who has the money.
That would only work with like-minded politicians. Old Democrats have spent more energy complaining about Mamdani in the past month than Trump’s current presidential run.
So… what you are saying is that it is time to separate the wheat from the chaff. Those old fuckers need to retire and try to still appear wise… they are fucking failures and should know it.
Yeah, we need to support David Hogg’s initiative to primary old useless Dems.
I actually think that conservative journals like the WSJ have created the appearance that Democrats are anti-Mamdani, in an attempt to “divide and conquer” democrats.
i actually see a surprisingly positive response to Mamdani from democratic movements all across the US.
Hey, I am an old Xer and have come to the realization that the reason we lost last election (other than the cheating but decentralized voting almost always wins over cheating)… is because we listened to those “Never Trump Republicans” and embraced the Cheneys and others. That was exactly the wrong tack. We should have embraced instead the Bernie/AOC and Elizabeth faction. That would have communicated to the people that we actually cared about their life circumstances in this post-Covid, war infected supply chain challenged economy. Let the New Economics/Distributist peeps inform us with some resilient strategies. We are Fucking Tired of the Old Ideas.
Bingo. The media is entirely captured, obviously, and people don’t understand what’s really going on as a result.
I’m not sure how states could withhold money from the feds.
I’m not a lobbyist so I don’t write the laws, but I hear they’re trying it
Wow, interesting!
Thanks for that article. I’m glad they’re fighting back!
I still am laughing at what Wonkette used for their image and headline on how the qons are reacting to Mamdani… 🤣 🤣 🤣
“Wingnuts Exactly As Calm As You’d Expect Over Mamdani’s NYC Primary Win” https://www.wonkette.com/p/wingnuts-exactly-as-calm-as-youd
This is a still from Big Trouble In Little China, for the curious.
I hope Mamdani has a high quality security detail or he wont live long.
