Lawmakers in Florida are raising alarm over documents suggesting immigrant children and pregnant women could be detained at ‘Alligator Alcatraz.’
A draft operational plan obtained by the Miami Herald suggests minors could indeed be transported to the controversial site in the Everglades. The 35-page undated document details protocols to “separate minors from unrelated adults” and to provide “snacks and water” to minors, pregnant women and detainees with medical conditions during transport.
“The State of Florida is planning to send pregnant women and children to the ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ detention camp,” wrote State Senator Carlos Guillermo Smith on social media. “This is totally un-American. We cannot be silent.”
Things can be immoral without only affecting women and children.
just call it Alligator Auschwitz.
Of course they’re going to send children and pregnant women. Do they think the Nazi Germans were all “you know what? the jew kids and pregnant jew women are too much for this. lets leave them alone.” no. You don’t gear up for a genocide by picking and choosing those within the group you plan on genociding.
I’m surprised pregnant women arent getting guantanimo to ensure they dont give birth on US soil
They got rid of birthright citizenship so it doesn’t matter
snacks and water not guaranteed
Nobody should be subjected to this
So the alligators will have bite sized snacks in addition to full size meals… sorry, my dark humor. It’s the only way I cope with these atrocities.
Call it what it is: a concentration camp, a death camp, or perhaps Alligator Auschwitz.
Alcatraz housed convicted felons. This place is housing non-criminals. Immigration is a civil infraction, like a parking ticket. If you ever stole something from the store or got in a fight, you’re more of a criminal than these folks.
Call it what it is: Alligator Auschwitz
Dont put Ausschwitz so lightly. Thanks
You think Auschwitz started out openly with a plan to kill every detainee? German concentration camps were no different than this at the start. Mass cells for a designated group of “outsiders”. It was only later that the gas chambers were erected to cull the contained population to make room for more detainees. We are moments away from Auschwitz in America. If you can’t see that, you are deluded.
Ausschwitz was from the beginning a destruction camp
Concentration camps were not all for killing. Dachau was for political prisoners and only late 1944s got a gas chamber.
The nazis didnt kill the “undesireable races” right away. They used them as slaves. Only near the end they fully began the killing on industrial scale.
Hi. Greetings from germany. Exactly 20 minutes from Dachau KZ.
Lege dich nicht mit mir in einer Debatte über die Pläne und vorhergehensweise der Nazis an.
All they have to do is fill it up and wait, hurricane season will take care of the rest of the plan.
When trump dies the world will celebrate
No one mourns the wicked
It’s concentration camp. Why is anyone surprised?
Its a concentration camp. Don’t call it alligatoralcatraz.
Exactly. Call it Alligator Auschwitz.
Alligator Auswitz
Honestly, how is it any better to send young men there? I’m not wild about sending pregnant women and children there obviously, but…are we indicating that men don’t matter?
It said pregnant women and children. Which are both vulnerable populations that are more at risk for death from severe heat stress and malnutrition and stress .
A lot of our culture accepts and promotes the idea that men are inherently dangerous.
It is a depressing reality that to most people men (as a social class) are less important than others.
That’s what I guess gets me. Of course we want to protect those that are even more at risk, but why does it take it going that far to talk about the fact that there is risk for anyone being held under such conditions?
I think it’s nice actually that we can recognize that pregnant women and children are more vulnerable groups of people that sometimes require more protection than men. I say that as a man.
I for one am glad that at least some on the right are still reachable on this matter.
But if they were okay with subjecting men they deem less than to this, it’s still rather alarming, since it’s not that much of a leap to then pushing pregnant women and children into the same conditions, if they are considered part of the same group.
I second this. I am nowhere near as vulnerable as a pregnant woman or a child. I choose to put myself below them, as they are in the position of such vulnerability. I’m personally okay with that.
Yep, there is not a big cabal of pregnant women having concentration caps built to hold white men. Not all men are dangerous, but more are than pregnant women.
So based on that statistic, we should treat them differently? This line of thinking leads to some very bad places.
I guess this is what I’m trying to convey - remember that even the Nazis did not go full Nazi immediately. It was incremental.
Let’s say these camps end up killing some fraction of men, “accidentally”, and possibly ramp up to more intentional things, like working people to death and even worse. At some point, the monsters are going to look around and still see “undesirables” in the remaining family members…meaning pregnant women and children.
They can inch things along as far as the circle of concern goes. The minute someone does the, “well, but it’s men, and of course we wouldn’t do this to pregnant women and children!” I cannot help but wonder where this is going…especially once all the men are “deported” or put into these camps. Where does the rest of their family go, anyway? Who is providing for them? If their provider was kidnapped and imprisoned, it’s not like these vulnerable people are going to have their lives enriched even if they are not being put in concentration camps…
Honestly, did you look at any of the pictures? You think people with delicate health conditions should be sent there? Really?
Also, I’m assuming you’re genuine, but there are many people who post similar comments, things like “All lives matter.” And yes, human life is worth respect, but at the same time, you don’t want to be confused with a bigoted troll.
Don’t lock people out of making valid arguments because they sound vaguely like arguments used by other people for negative means
Yes, it’s a hard needle to thread. My point is that it’s pretty fucked up in my view that it’s considered unfortunate, but maybe “okay”, with some if it’s younger men being sent to such a place and held under such conditions, because, well, it’s men. And that the only thing that might wake up some portion of the people is if women and children go there, and then some glimmer of humanity sparks in them…SMH.
It’s not as if some men might have some preconditions that make them vulnerable under such conditions. Something tells me the monsters running this are not prescreening for any of that, because they are dangerous brown men…
So they’re sending children to death camps already? I thought it would take longer than this
they were already pushing children in concentration camps last trump administration.
And during the Biden administration.
God, how much I despise democrats and their BS ratchet.
Based on their laws, if the adverse setting they’ve placed a pregnant woman in causes a miscarriage, all of the employees are partially responsible for a homicide right? Since life begins at conception right?
The problem in your logic here is that immigrant children aren’t people in their eyes, so fetus or not they can’t be murdered.
