A former leader in the FBI said Wednesday night the agency was "back to square one" after authorities released a "subject" who had been taken into custody in connection with the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Kirk, 31, was the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA, a conservative s...
    • untorquer@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Probably fled the state by now. You’ll have to expand the search to guys with high powered rifles in the greater western US.

        • untorquer@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          Well by now yes they could be anywhere in the world. I was speaking at time of post with my understanding of the original timeline, faulty as it may have been 2min after waking up lol. They might be at mcmurdo for all we know now

  • 6stringringer@lemmy.zip
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    7 months ago

    Don’t ya’ll worry. Big K Patel got this handled. Trump hired the best & brightest. Let’s Go Brandon!

  • AlexLost@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    The assassin will never be caught. Law enforcement couldn’t solve a crossword puzzle if the answer is not handed to them directly.

    • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Law enforcement was involved in it. This is clearly a operation to support denying trans folks of owning guns.

    • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Law enforcement usually does not care enough to solve a crossword puzzle - but there’s surprisingly few cases that can’t be solved through the careful application of an overwhelmingly massive surveillance apparatus (See: luigi - who could have gotten away with it had they not managed to find the hostel camera footage)

      I’m really hoping this proves not to be the case here, just including the prior as a caution to anyone planning to be gay and do crimes that you can’t actually discount the cops completely. (And from having worked with LE in the past, the absolute #1 way to not get caught is to never ever tell anyone about it. Not your friends, not your mom, lips sealed no matter how cool it was. The number of calls in to their tip lines with people ratting out friend-of-friends is crazy.)

  • Zozano@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I’m really disappointed that the shooter won’t be found.

    Now I don’t know who to project my good vibes and gratitude to.

    • Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Honestly they might have even less then they did on Luigi, there is no video, at least clear video of the shooter. It was from 200 feet away, if he used a bolt action and was smart he didn’t even cock the gun so the casing stays inside the gun.

  • -RJ-@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Meaning they don’t think the person who shot him was black, trans or had mental health issues.

    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
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      7 months ago

      Well according to the community forum for my crazy neighborhood it’s definitely a minority trans person who did this.

      Also all mass shootings were done by trans people. Not even joking.

      • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.orgEnglish
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        7 months ago

        Trans people are like sub 1% of the us population. These guys are busy.

        I really don’t understand how you can actually believe something like that. Because of my wild 20’s i happen to know a lot of trans or gay or LGBTQ people in general, or more than the average person. If they were that violent, i would know so many murderers. In reality they are just the nicest people imaginable. I get that they obviously don’t know trans people, probably have never seen one, or if they did, they didn’t even know. But even that fact should make you wonder, no? I was at work and some random guy complained about how many jews live here and why that’s a problem, and i just thought that i don’t even know any jew. I worked for one once, and every now and then i see three or four walking around, but only recognise them because they are orthodox and dress like amish people. I actually had to look it up and in and around the next city, there are only 2000 jews, like what are you on about?

    • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      WSJ is claiming that the rounds recovered from the weapon used had pro trans / “antifascist” things engraved on the bullets - make of that what you will. Generally WSJ’s reporting is factually accurate but incredibly biased, so there’s that? Fuckin’ hell though this is already such a fucking clusterfuck.

      • MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        If that’s actually the case

        then I think it’s just as likely

        that this was done by fascists

        to justify a “war” against “leftists”.

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          I can’t say I would be surprised for that to be the case.

          I think it’s far more likely for it to have been one decent person who couldn’t take the constant hatred spewed by Kirk. Everyone knows this has been brewing, for it to finally pop on Mr 'Puts His Punchable Face Right Out There And Taunts You For Not Hitting Him" himself isn’t much of a surprise.

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          That’s completely standard in journalism - and the WSJ, despite being an aggressively horrible publication politically and morally, is quite respected for the strict veracity of it’s reporting. I don’t doubt they were told that, by a reputable source. I have no idea if it’s true beyond that however, since the trump admin isn’t exactly overflowing with decent quality human beings.

  • CromulantCrow@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I think the shooter was good, but not a professional. They knew enough to sight in their scope accurately, but not enough to account for bullet drop. Nobody aims for the neck. Odds are he was aiming for the head. If you zero in your sight for 100 yards, the bullet can drop 3 or 4 inches once it gets to 200. And he seems to have disappeared without a trace, so he planned it well. I assume he cleaned up after himself. Odds are they’ll never find him.

    • Derpgon@programming.dev
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      7 months ago

      Even picked up the shell casing. And not bystanders casualities. Not a pro, but certainly not an amateur.

      Where was this guy when Tronald Dump had his speech…

        • Derpgon@programming.dev
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          7 months ago

          Well, it could’ve been, but it is really not that important. Worst case it takes aways from his professionality.

            • Derpgon@programming.dev
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              7 months ago

              Bolt action ejects the casing as well, given you perform the bolt action. Not sure how confident they were the first shot will be enough, and time is everything so I assumed they performed the bolt action to prepare to finish the job if anything didn’t go according to plan.

    • halferect@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      I assume they couldn’t see his head because being under the tent and shooting from a upward position so they shot what they could see

    • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      7 months ago

      The shooter could have been aiming center mass, and aimed a bit high? Good thing, too, as Kirk was wearing body armor!

      I do agree, not a pro. Just a decent shot with a typical hunting rifle.

    • Seth Taylor@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Him? You mean they/them, right? Cause it was obviously a far-left transgender liberal progressive with blue hair. The whole GOP said so on Twitter. Surely they can’t be using this death to trigger more violence, can they?

      • Raiderkev@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Looks like a white male to me. Likely on the right side of the aisle judging by the attire. I think that whole thing about the bullets / guns having messages on them is grade a horse shit.

        • Traister101@lemmy.today
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          7 months ago

          That’s some dude they found that looks kinda suspicious which is currently their best guess for who the shooter might be, not the confirmed THIS GUY IS THE SHOOTER guy

    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
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      7 months ago

      Yeah, a lot of people have been going on about “he must have had sniper training” and I’m like no man, 200 yards is a pretty normal shot for a hunter. Heck I’ve shot deer at 150 with iron sights.

      I’m inclined to agree with you on the whole probably just a guy who went to the range that fell down a rabbit hole.

      • Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        7 months ago

        I saw someone saying he must have been a professional because he “hit a spot smaller than a quarter from 200 yards”… Like, my dude, you are assuming the goal was to hit that exact spot? Every bullet “hits a spot smaller than a quarter” from every range. I agree this wasn’t likely to be the first time this person held or shot a rifle, but he also doesn’t need to be Jason Bourne…

        • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish
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          7 months ago

          big difference from making that shot on a target field, and knowing you are going to kill someone, and have to get away with it. No amateur would have taken one single shot, see the Trump shooting.

          • Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish
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            7 months ago

            It was a bolt action rifle, not an AR like was used in the Trump shooting, you aren’t going to fire 3 rounds before you know what the first one did. And you are assuming an average person in a mental state that both understands and cares about the sanctity of life.

            • oozynozh@sh.itjust.works
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              7 months ago

              and, why not? Oswald famously managed to fire three deadly accurate (magical, even) bullets from his Carcano 38 within mere 7 seconds.

              • Zron@lemmy.world
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                7 months ago

                Oswald was a marine.

                His target was moving and he had a very limited line of site, and still managed to hit 2 out of 3 shots.

                That kinda shit is what professional shooters can do.

                This was 1 shot at a fairly standard range on a target literally sitting in a chair on a well lit stage. You don’t need to be a professional to make that shot. I’ve had friends on their first day shooting make shots like that with a decent rifle, some coaching, and about 10 rounds of practice at shorter ranges.

          • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
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            7 months ago

            It’s a bolt action, at a pretty typical hunting range (142 yds is the estimate).

            Its not all that outrageous of a shot. A good shot, and a skilled one. But not at all unusually skilled.

  • Iced Raktajino@startrek.website
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    7 months ago

    Charlie Kirk. Kirk, 31, was the CEO…

    He was only 31?

    Geezus. Hate really does age you. I’m over 10 years his senior, and he looks 5 years older than me. And for once, this isn’t a humble-brag.