Here’s the full question (since Lemmy has title character limits): “With all the stuff going on with this administration and the Supreme Court, is it gonna take a revolution to stop this damn administration and the SCOTUS from curtailing people’s freedoms and liberties at this point because we’re way past the point of reform?”
Oh and how do you fight doomerism these days?
Yes. We literally need to arrest all of these Israeli backed politicians and oligarchs for treason and crimes against humanity. We need to seize all of their assets to repair our data security and restore our economy. We will need a constitutional convention and we will need to fully reform our system to make sure this level of corruption is never possible again.
No but you have bigger problems than the two you mentioned. There is so much injustice baked into the system that you will never get rid of it without some kind of revolution.
Maybe a velvet revolution is possible but I firmly believe it is impossible to fix the U.S. through gradual change.
Yes, sadly, we won’t.
republicans have to lose incredibly bad. Like so bad they can’t block a 3/4ths vote and even dick dem in name onlies can’t join them to block a 2/3rds. If its a simple majority it will at best slow things down.
This clusterfuck is ultimately the product of broken society. You won’t fix the society by starting a revolution - you’ll just replace one set of bad guys with worse ones.
What does fix it?
The correct question is: “How can I protect myself from the broken society impacting my life”
Well no, because in aggregate people will fail at protecting themselves, or else it wouldn’t be a broken society. You can’t solve a coordination problem with advice to defect.
This is going to sound counter Intuitive to the Emotional need for revolution. But the best way to fight back is community networks and finding what is needed by marginalized groups and create programs that help those groups and organize around that action. Also making those networks distributed so it makes it harder for Authoritarians to squash but you can still navigate between the networks to get the resources you need.
A good example of this was the breakfast programs the black panthers started. If you read how the government tried to dismantle those programs and failed. You will see how effective they can be.
Mutual Aid is revolution.
The more we help each other, the more the state becomes obsolete.
Which goes hand in hand with similar safety that comes with having an extensive global economy. Isolationism very directly makes the entire world less safe.
This is the best solution. If we can no longer count on our “representatives” to represent our needs in governance, we must build our own separate governance from the ground up to help one another. The Black Panthers knew they couldn’t trust the racist US government to help the black community, so they organized to help the community themselves. They mostly did community support projects, but they did have a set of armed members who essentially acted as a local police force since they also definitely couldn’t trust the police to protect them.
That’s just surviving. OP asked how do you stop the oppression. That could be done over time via the electoral process if it was left intact, but it has been damaged already and very likely will be ignored if and when it goes against the will of the oppressors. Then what?
Correct it is just surviving but its also organizing around those projects to create a community that protects the community. In turn that creates a resistance to the oppression.
Organizing like that is a good idea for sure, but it will come down to revolution (probably violent) to eradicate the problem. Humans are just animals though, and whatever we build to replace what we destroy may likely be just as bad.
With the new surveyance methods available to the regime, this is going to get harder and harder.
True, but there are ways to still communicate secretly, especially if you only need to organize locally.
That’s why face to face organizing is critical. Small groups distributed with common goal. None of that let’s change our profile pictures bullshit. Building real connections, is key. Internet activism is a lie. It is doing nothing but it makes you fill like you did something and social media companies use that to control the masses into apathy.
I’m not saying communication is not important but it will be on private point to point communication with in your local network. Also using stuff like Meshtactic or ham radios are great for emergency response. Be it natural disasters or human caused crises.
At the end of the day, it’s what happens in the midterms that determine the next course of action. You can see every day that they’re trying to rig them, and if they succeed in removing the only constitutional method to eject them from power, we’re left with few other options.
I mean the second amendment is part of the constitution and it clearly talks about this so…
So?
That is totally dependent on if they rig the upcoming midterms or not. If there is a legitimate election and the Republicans indeed loose big, then a long process of rebuilding can begin. They will have to immediately remove Trump from office IMO. …Having said that, there is no way that these fascist swine are going down that easy. They will either fix the elections, cancel them, or claim fraud and execute a total coup. This time, they will use the military.
It really depends on the degree to which the Republican party destroys elections. If they don’t, Democrats have a large majority in the Millennial/early Gen-Z age group, so we could be looking at a good 30 years of majority control. That’s almost certainly the reason they’re working so hard to corrupt elections, and we’ll see to what degree we’ll be able to fight it.
I typically don’t like US politics because it’s all shitting on somebody’s head but this is an acceptable question because it can be interpreted in a structural way. Like the river carries water, in an orderly fashion, even though each drop moves chaotically and by common assumption doesn’t even have consciousness, so society moves forward, even though no single person has a plan.
I think that in some sense of the word, things are gonna be ok because life has always found a way, one way or another, and this won’t be different. The question is just what local bubble is gonna make it and what not. About the US politics: I think that governments ultimately derive their power from being useful to society. Just like every major invasion of other countries has failed in decades, so has no tyrannical regime existed forever. There’s always some tradeoff between the ruler being necessary and annoying. Even the “very bad people” (according to newspapers) such as dictators in the third world have a surprising amount of support from the local population because they perform some role, such as holding society together and defending against a (real or imagined) external threat. I think that it’s easy to give in to doomerism, because people are attracted to bad thoughts like the mosquito is attracted to fire, but ultimately the world is on a path of development, and bad rulers can only rule as long as their existence is considered practical. Which won’t be forever.
Embrace the doom.
