Why didn’t she go with him? Cuz she wasn’t scared and was being lazy.
That’s not very efficient.
Her being there to inspect the item before purchase is more efficient than getting it home and then finding out something is wrong.
Depends on what it is.
I may be going out on a limb here but I’m going say it’s probably a lamp.
Womym BAD amirit??
Updoots to the left!!!
So, was it deliberate for you to assign the ‘reddit stereotype’ to the exact opposite sentiment it’s actually associated with, or?
Maybe they have kids…?
And they can’t go for a ride? That aside, the stated reason was fear, not kids. Why make up excuses?
I’m guessing you don’t have kids.
The tragedy that is that in order to reliably sell something on the internet you have to draw in a bear from the woods.
Or beer* in this case
…I have to say, “beer from the woods” sounds a lot better than I’d’ve thought.
“Why does your location…”
The best deals are worth the risk of dying
I’m a burly, bearded, outdoorsy dude, and you can describe a lot of my friends in a similar way.
Once upon a time, one such friend had a few trees on his property that needed to come down (damaged by storms, emerald ash borer, etc,) so he made a decision to have a “lumberjack day”
The plan was simple, we’d all show up with axes and saws and other implements of destruction and cut down these trees and chop them up to manageable sizes.
We also all kind of had the same idea that we’d show up in flannel shirts and suspenders in hopes that our one friend (coincidentally my now-wife, though we had not yet even begun to think about dating) who was sort of our unofficial group photographer, would show up with our camera, and we could get some cool shots of us being rugged badasses and maybe a group picture.
Sadly, she had to work that day, so no pictures exist.
I decided for this occasion that I wanted a big ol’ double-bit felling axe. It just seemed appropriate.
Now I could have gotten one from a hardware store if I just wanted a prop, but I did want an actual usable axe. Most new axes you can easily get your hands on these days just aren’t that great unless you’re willing to shell out some decent money (they’re not outlandishly expensive, but certainly more than I could afford at the time as a 20-something pizza guy)
Which meant that I’d be looking for a used axe. This was something I’d already been keeping my eye out for at yard sales and flea markets and such but unfortunately I was coming up empty. So with Lumberjack Day fast-approaching, I turned to craigslist.
And sure enough, I found a guy selling axes. Quite a lot of axes in fact, I suspect this guy had been snatching them up from the same flea markets I’d been hunting at before I got a chance. He’d clean them up, hang a new handle if needed, and sell them. His sharpening skills left a bit to be desired, but I’m handy enough with a file and whetstone so that didn’t matter.
We exchanged some messages, he sent me some pics of what he had, and we arranged a time for me to swing over to his house to buy an axe from him.
So one Sunday morning I swerved over to his house, not thinking to tell anyone where I was going.
From the pictures he sent, I kind of thought he had these axes in a shed or garage.
Instead when I went there and knocked on his front door he invited me inside and told me the axes were in his basement.
I step inside his living room, and this man had no furniture.
We go down into the basement, and every wall and float surface is covered in axes (and some similar hand tools- hammers, hoes, picks, shovels, etc)
I think this may have been some kind of serial killer’s lair.
But, luckily, I did not get axe-murdered that day. Instead I checked out his wares, handed him $60, and walked out with a rather nice vaughan axe that was probably from around the '60s
Took it out to my car, sat there for a minute considering my life choices, and went on my merry way.
Then a week or two later I put that axe to good use at lumberjack day. It’s a good axe, I still have it and find some good excuses to use it from time-to-time.
So anyway, he may possibly be a serial killer, but I do recommend Craigslist Andrew if you ever need to buy a decent used axe at a fair price.
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Oh hey, have you guys heard of this thing called “lemmy”? It’s part of the fediverse. You might enjoy the memes!
We have beans, jeans, and no pooping, unless they were all taken away on Taylor Swift’s jet.
I’m sad that that “no pooping” guy never explained himself.
Maybe he was sacrificing his colon for the well-being of the fediverse.
Is this normal that wife has a tracking gps on husband?
I just got a new iPhone. It offers the option during setup, to leave your location on for your designated family. I left the box checked yes because it was the default and I had no strong feelings about it.
I used to think this was crazy but my skin is brown so I’ve had to let my partner have my location so they can track me in case I get got by ICE.
Mine does, but that only started after a severe hypoglycemic incident during which I have no memory of about 2 hours, drove about ten miles, wrecked my car, and was found on a sidewalk. EMT report says my sugar was unmeasurably low and it took an IV and oral gel to get it up to 35, which is where it was when my memory comes back coherently. First thing I remember at that point was the sting of the IV in my arm and then my finger, seeing the 35, the EMT noticing I was looking at him and getting a battery of general awareness questions.
I would ask about the “again” on the chemical weapons in the toilet thing, but I was the kid that played with low grade explosives and chemistry “projects” at that age. Got annoyed when my homemade napalm was caustic enough it started to eat through the container I’d made it in.
EDIT: Holy fuck my spelling was bad on this one.
So just cause I can’t tell this story very often. One time when I was hit in the head particularly hard in middle school when the teachers were trying to give general awareness questions one of the ones I was close to asked “Tell me about the Mycenaean Greece” because he knew I can unironically bullshit those questions in my actual sleep. So I rant for about 5 minutes look at my hands say give me a few and proceed to zone the fuck out for about 10 minutes before growling out “Aight and we’re back” which is around when I actually have memories of the incident.
According to one of the security guys who basically had the job of keeping us from making chemical weapons in the toilet again, it was probably the most bizarre thing he had seen since Iraq. He was an Army medic veteran.
I would ask about the “again” on the chemical weapons in the toilet thing, but I was the kid that played with low grade explosives and chemistry “projects” at that age. Got annoyed when my homemade napalm was caustic enough it started to eat through the container I’d made it in.
The actual story is that a couple of guys broke into a cleaning locker that was in the bathroom (school was old had weird set up) wherein some of the dumber smart guys decided to mix ammonia and bleach in a toilet. Funny enough I was the source of that problem and also how it was noticed because I spread the knowledge of that particular bit of chemistry, and was laughing my ass off at the fact that the toilet was at that point actively hazard due to mustard gas.
Pretty much. It’s great as I get an alert when she’s 5 mins from home so I can peel myself off the sofa before she’s back and look productive.
Yeah, my wife would turn it on when she’s in an “uncertain” neighbourhood.
Well, they’re selling it to the advertisers, why not your wife too?
Ok wife, 5$/month, deal?
Sort of? If you are in a trusting relationship who cares? It’s simply convenient to check where your spouse or kids are without having to wait for a response.
The only reason me and my wife don’t do it is because we don’t trust the apps not to scoop up our location data and sell it to everyone.
Doesn’t leaving location on drain phone battery at a higher rate?
Not really. Your phone is already doing location checks every few minutes for a variety of reasons, so it doesn’t really affect it unless you have rooted your phone and hunted down all the little bullshit things that trigger location checks.
You know you can just turn off location services right? Pretty sure even iPhone has the option
Turning off your GPS will not turn off location sharing to Google or other people, it will just fall back to using cell towers and wifi. Admittedly, it will be much more inaccurate, but it will still try it’s best. You can also turn off wifi and even data service itself to save energy. Although at that point you might as well just turn off the phone.
But I wasn’t talking about system level shutdowns. I want talking about in comparison to your standard level of activity. If you have your GPS on for anything like maps or anything else, you aren’t going to see a noticeable difference with personal location sharing on.You can turn off higher level location services at the OS level, but at the radio level the cellular network will always need a precise enough location to handle tower handoffs and timing issues between the tower and phone, as well as modern beam forming techniques where the tower “aims” the signal at the phone. The simple act of the phone communicating with a specific tower tells the phone where it is (sometimes with surprisingly high precision).
911/emergency services also use more low level location techniques, but I’m pretty sure those functions don’t get called unless you dial an emergency number.
You’re getting way too far in the weeds on this, man. They’re asking if you can turn off GPS to save battery
I’m giving some reasons why turning on or off location services at the OS level doesn’t appreciably change battery life.
Yes, kinda. But that’s what chargers are for. ☺️
not really a problem on modern phones. i got a fairphone 6 and my phone lasts the whole day with Bluetooth, GPS, NFC and whatnot all active
It must be so relaxing being a cis, het, white man.
Bait
You’re not wrong there, my friend - I stride through life on easy level knowing that nothing bad nor troublesome will ever have any bearing on me, nor my life, in any way whatsoever. It is a most relaxing life.
“Hey honey, I fear for my life in this situation I engineered. Because of your gender I need you to go face that danger instead. BTW if you don’t do this, I will question your gender identity.”
Even in your own little bubble, your hate doesn’t make sense.
I know this obviously wasn’t your intention, but you managed to encapsulate the attitude of my ex and her family to the letter.
I grew up with food insecurity and poverty, she came from wealth. My family was always open and honest about our thoughts and feelings, her family had strict expectations and roles.
Both her and her mom would constantly engineer situations where I would be forced to prove my masculinity, regardless of how uncomfortable, scared, tired, or belittled I felt. This included things like going out to dinner during a snow storm, moving us from one apartment to another on my own, trying to convince me to physically assault someone else to “defend” her, and purchasing heavy items online that she couldn’t lift and while I was injured.
In hindsight I can see and understand how toxic that relationship was, but at the time I was excited to be receiving any positive attention from someone I was attracted to (whenever I was able to fit their mold), and didn’t know any better.
Apologies for the long rant, your comment hit the nail on the head and also apparently triggered those memories for me.
Glad to hear she is an ex.
One of the greatest feelings is having been helpful to those we care about. It’s sad that some people will abuse that to no end, and you didn’t deserve that in the slightest.
I hope you’re doing better these days. <3
That’s awfully presumptuous. Maybe Adam over here is getting some dick on the side, you don’t know his life.
Uhhh not really no. Most of us were raised to hide away our emotions. I’ve been bullied for crying or being “weak”. This expectation still exists among adults and is perpetuated by both men and women (though definitely not all of them). It only takes one or two of these toxic people to turn a whole group towards toxic masculinity it seems.
Also, anywhere I go I’m aware that most women find me scary just for existing in a place. I was just out for a walk and just happened to end up on a path closely behind a woman who was also walking there. She looked behind a few times and sped up her pace, while I tried to reduce pace in order to not spook her any further. It’s not exactly nice to get the feeling that half of the population seems to immediately distrust you just for the actions of a small minority of men.
Right, some more discrimination is exactly what we need to fix things.
Ngl it’s a pretty sweet gig, although lately the het part has been kinda dubious.
I’m not sure I’d call it “relaxing,” but It’s definitely easy mode.
Of course, that’s why so many of the losers among us go off the right-wing/incel deep end: if you’re living on easy mode and you still manage to fail, you’ve got nobody to blame but yourself. But they can’t handle that either, so they go fucking insane desperately trying to find scapegoats.
Of course, that’s why so many of the losers among us go off the right-wing/incel deep end: if you’re living on easy mode and you still manage to fail, you’ve got nobody to blame but yourself.
I mean, if you want to think that about those who are suffering, don’t be surprised if they latch on to the first con man who feigns compassion. Since you have none.
Yeah, the pressure to never show emotion, to always be strong and never ask for help, to try not to show the distress at being inherently distrusted because so many people who happen to share the same kind of chromosomes. Totally easy mode.
Just because it’s less stressful than some other demographics doesn’t make it, in any way, easy. Just slightly less difficult.
I wouldn’t even call it less difficult. Just differently difficult.
I’ve tried both, and being Myself is harder than being a man. More rewarding, but way way more effortful.
This. Profoundly this.
I wish people would just realize this and strive to lift each other up instead of trying to one-up each other in the pity-demographic olympics.
Exactly. Different people have different challenges. A woman working in finance in NYC faces many difficulties, but so does man working at a gas station in Albania. It’s not a competition.
Checks out.
Presuming this is occuring in or near Seattle, yep, yep, the “Seattle Chill” has these days basically become ‘Permaonline / hikkikomori / over exposed to fear inducing media / paranoid main character myopia to the point of delusional antisociality.’
And then you have other people who have like, basic social skills, who do not become infuriated by a bit of small talk with a rando at the same bus stop.
It’s actually kinda scary to see multitudes of grown-ass people in dire need of rehabilitation into society because they doomscrolled just a bit too much.
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If it was a bear selling that lamp, none of this would have been necessary.
I also choose the gay bear
Hello.
*Rolls dice, and passes a perception check*
Hey wait a minute… you’re not some lady’s husband - y-you’re a BEAR!
But what if it’s actually a man pretending to be a bear?
But then the bear would still have to be afraid of honeypots
Are people really this afraid of strangers? Last year I bought a bicycle from a woman, she sent me her address, I went there, it was just her and her baby waiting for me with the bicycle. Didn’t even kidnap her.
Didn’t kidnap her yet. Now you know her address for a later date, without the pretext to incriminate you! I’m onto you, pal
And she doesn’t have a bike to make a fast getaway!
But you did kidnap the baby
No, I wanted a bicycle, not a baby. Also kidnapping is kind of frowned upon in my culture.
No way, same thing in my culture, you from earth too??
No, I’m from Betelgeuse V.
You kidnapped the bicycle? You monster!
That is what the story is about, yes, women have a fear of harm from men. I assume you know why.
gestures at everything
Even the lamp. Fucking lamps…
Why even make a fucking lamp in the first place? Weren’t regular lamps good enough as they were?
You kids these days… back in my day, before leds, you would never even consider using a lamp for any kind of sexual act. Between the bulb melting your flesh, the risks of broken glass, and the risks of electrocution… Well it just wasn’t worth it.
well the led lamps are pretty handy butt flutes, but you don’t really care for music do ya?
And yet their solution is to use a man for protection?
Nothing wrong with that, I just think it’s a little one-sided to say “women are afraid of men” while ignoring the part where “women use men for safety.”
That’s a very disingenuous argument.
Is it? Or are you just in the habit of labeling anything that conflicts with your assumptions as being disingenuous?
Apparently women are.
Apparently
Is this surprising to you?
My neighbor was selling something, the person came over but either didn’t get it or saw something he liked became they came back and broke into their house to get it.
You got the baby though, right?
Of course. She was a single mother, kidnapping her would be dumb. When you kidnap the baby, you can get ransom from her.
Almost like women have different, valid, fears than men
How does this apply to the whole “gender roles are obsolete/archaic” thing?
I’m not trying to be edgy, I’m just trying to understand how that idea meshes with “wife sends husband into potentially dangerous situation because the risk for him is lower”
It’s not a man’s job to go into dangerous situations, dangerous situations are not always more dangerous for women than for men, and situations that are “more dangerous for women” than “for men” aren’t always more dangerous for a specific woman than for a specific man.
It’s not gender roles, it’s a request based on specific circumstances that is voluntarily granted. The woman could go herself and it wouldn’t be inappropriate. The man could refuse and it wouldn’t be inappropriate. The situation could be more dangerous for the man (e.g. if she’s white and he’s latino and ICE are in town) and it wouldn’t be emasculating.
In this case, the logic favors the man taking the risk. Because we live in a patriarchal society, the logic often favors the man taking the risk. Even in an egalitarian society the forms of risk might match up with physiological differences in a way that causes the logic to statistically favor people of one gender taking the risk.
The important part is that it’s free association, not roles. The notion that people should be equal and “colorblind” is an intentionally malicious neoliberal reading of social justice intended to dismiss a generation of minority activists as “disciminatory in the opposite way” and to serve as an excuse to deregulate protections for women and minorities. Something that we should all unlearn ASAP so we can see each other as human beings and help each other.
Using logic and physiology to justify why a man or a woman should do a certain thing is certainly not a unique or original take…
I mean I see what you’re saying, and if I had a wife I would gladly take risks for her so that she didn’t have to. But I’ve been told in the past that I was being sexist for having that mentality. Sort of an “I’m not a delicate flower and I don’t need you to do things for me!” type of situation.
So, being amenable to disagreement as I am, I adjusted my mentality. Women can be heros in stories, and they can take risks and handle dangerous situations in real life, too.
That’s why I find it a bit jarring when suddenly it seems the feminist take has become “Actually, men should do dangerous things for the women in their lives.” It kinda just feels like they’re willing to argue any position that 1) disagrees with something a man says; and 2) is convenient for their purposes at a given moment.
It’s just not consistent, and I have a hard time feeling convinced by anyone whose argument is inconsistent…
Well if the person was a ftm trans man, who these days are basically impossible to differentiate from cis men, they probably would have been pretty safe. So gender isn’t obsolete per se, it’s just not immutable.
And some people might want it to be obsolete, but society writ large is just not on board with that.
Rapists will always prey on people who are more vulnerable than them. Things like prison rape show that a person’s genitals aren’t always a factor. Mtf trans people also get raped.
Nice deflection. I never claimed gender is immutable. You just brought cis/trans distinction into a discussion about man/woman.
So gender isn’t obsolete per se
So it’s only obsolete if we’re talking about cis men? Cause if you meant anything else by that, then why would you even bring it up? Is it obsolete or is it not obsolete?
Don’t give me “per se,” cause that just leaves you room to carve out exceptions for anyone you don’t think is oppressed enough to deserve your sympathy or acknowledgement.
Rapists will always prey on people who are more vulnerable than them. Things like prison rape show that a person’s genitals aren’t always a factor. Mtf trans people also get raped.
Rape is an evil, vile, despicable thing to do to another person. That’s a bit of a red herring though, because my question was about how this topic reflects on gender roles. Cause it seems like the same people who want to say “gender roles are archaic and should be done away with” are in favor of sending a man into a situation where a woman might be in danger. But wouldn’t that make it a gender role?
By the way, cis men get raped too. Using mtf as an example to show that a person’s genitals aren’t always a factor is akin to saying “Only women get raped.” Especially when combined with your statement that “Ftm would be pretty safe.” So what’s your agenda, to claim the world is ultimately safe for men?
So are you saying men should do the dangerous stuff, fulfilling the gender role of “protector”? Because most feminists would be allergic to a statement like that. And yet here they are, saying “The world’s too dangerous for women, so they need to send men to do the dangerous stuff.”
My only point one way or the other is that it displays a glaring inconsistency that needs to be examined. There’s no need to insert the cis/trans distinction into the mix; if gender roles are obsolete, then it doesn’t matter; and if they’re not then the only difference it makes is in how men or women perform their gender, and whether they’re cis or trans wouldn’t change that.
Nice deflection. I never claimed gender is immutable.
I didn’t know we were having an argument, and I didn’t know I was even disagreeing with you, but OK.
Are you doing alright? Maybe take a deep breath.
Sorry, it’s just hard to approach these topics from my angle without bracing to be punched in the face…
That’s why she brought her baby. No one is going to kidnap someone with a baby. To much hassle.
That’s why I always bring a puppy to kidnappings: to distract babies.
Which is why I, as a professional guard baby, always bring a tennis ball and a kitten to expected kidnappings: to distract puppies and to distract the kidnapper with “dad with the kitten he said he didn’t want” moments.
Now the kitten I might kidnap.
Also Zaphod didn’t want to mention it but the baby had a knife.
That seems kind of like the standard procedure around here (Germany) too. When you sell something online, the expectation is always that the buyer comes to the sellers house to pick up the item. I’ve never seen anyone do that “let’s meet at this random parking lot” thing americans tend to do.
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Yeah, they’re generally referred to as some variation of a Safe Exchange Zone.
In the town I grew up in, the police station shared a parking lot with a Wawa.
My wife occasionally agrees to meet people if they live on the other side of the county and it’s going to take them an hour to get to our house.
Usually people just come and pick up their items. We live suburbia though so maybe they feel “safer.”
they live on the other side of the county and it’s going to take them an hour to get to our house.
Every now and again I’m reminded just how small some countries are, I drive 45min to work every day and I’m only one town over, meanwhile in 15 more minutes you can be on “the other side” of a whole country?
Meanwhile the trip across the US with no stops and traffic will take me 1d 19hr for 2,544 mi (4094.171 km) (according to openstreetmaps).
Edit: LOL I can’t read. It’s still true I suppose just not in this case haha.
County, not country.
LOL in my defense I had just woken up and I guess I thought you lived in like Luxembourg or some shit.
Yeah fair that aforementioned work is in the next county over from me haha.
The US is a lower trust society than most of Europe
Well, what do you expect? It’s full of Americans.
That is sad. Openly showing trust to the people around you (even if you have to take the first step and give someone the benefit of the doubt) creates the safest, most pleasant communities. Plus it’s just a massive hassle and mental strain to distrust everyone all the time.
Indeed. The death of the local community will be the undoing of America
Yep I get it, it’s a 3rd world thing. In my home country that’s what I’d do.
People are shity sometimes. I’m one that goes to an address if that’s the expectation. But there are items I almost never sell in person from my home, electronics being one.
My mother had a garage sale (total American thing I’m sure) and was robbed a few weeks later by someone taking an unusual amount of time “shopping“ with her phone out. The gal was a fool, had recordings on her phone of her and the places she was going to rob with address. After a month or so of this, she was caught and her phone searched where they found 20+ videos of other houses where they looked at stuff that would make for easy theft from the garage.
Lessons here are you need to decide who do you let in your home and I know it’s a lot to do with culture. Europe has some social support in place, the USA just says good luck and fuck off.
Enjoy it man, that’s a privilege to have and it only takes 1 bad incident for it all to come crumbling down when the media blows it out of proportion and everyone goes on a witch hunt for minorities.
Pretty sure it takes a whole lot more than that.
Don’t you remember the turning point of the 2002 Hartford kidnapping that turned the US society from a tolerant and inclusive society to a racist and violent hell?
Umm yes, now that you mention it, that was exactly it! Everything before and everything after didn’t matter!
You would think but wasn’t it in Germany that people went out attacking migrants in response to an incident where migrants were the perpetrators?
All I’m saying is that you assume people will respond logically like yourself but in reality that’s rarely the case.
There were a few attacks by angry people. But who says that in Germany “a whole lot more” hasn’t happened? People are losing their jobs, capitalism is massively extracting people’s wealth, enshittification everywhere. “A whole lot more” than one incident is currently happening.
All I’m doing is staying realistic. You saying “one incident is all it takes” is not literally true. It’s an exaggeration, not an entirely untrue one, but still.
Maybe I’ve lost hope in people, I didn’t mean to offend.
You’ve not offended anyone. Your feelings are valid. Humans are capable of terrible things, but on the whole, we live in an extremely peaceful society. There’s luckily so much more humans who do amazing things than terrible, unfortunately a few who do terrible is all it takes for the feeling of safety to crumble.
Even the majority of Germans who let national socialism happen aren’t all terrible. The absolute majority of them were just scared and ignorant and had a feeling of helplessness which is why they let it happen, but the actual agreement and horrible things were done by a minority of people. Same in other areas today where terrible things are happening.
Didn’t even kidnap her.
And they say chivalry is dead.
Just left her there. Didn’t bring her home. I say chivalry is dead
Tap for spoiler
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Didn’t even bring her back to the keep so that my liege lord could sell her back for ransom. So much for chivalry.
We truly live in an unchivalrous society insert joker meme here
And by home, he means Jim’s place 💝
must be rich to eat there
The fact that you think that is rich is a self own.
Yes, hello from the rest of the world, where not only are we owned, but complaining about it is also a self-own.
I think last time my wife and I went (2025) we got two beers and 20 wings for around $25? How is that rich?
I haven’t been in a while but from what I recall unless you get actual wings they’re pretty reasonable, at least as much as other places.
And thats how Adam and Jim became best friends for the next 30 years.
They were roomates
They kidnapped each other.
I feel like we need to apologize to women for existing.
Are we really that bad?
Yeah, we are. My very existence makes women around me miserable
I started wiping and it has made a big difference for me in that department, despite my initial skepticism to the advice
Sorry, I’m not American. I don’t get the wiping joke.
All it takes is one bad apple to spoil the barrel.
Every woman I know who hates men has at least one damn good reason to do so.
what does it say about us when the bigotry against is entirely justifiable?
In general, no. But there are enough of a minority of fuckwits to ruin it for everyone else.
but the worst are the ones people seem to always focus in on the most.
I still don’t understand sports fans and how they interact with each other. I just buy my thing and leave, maybe talk for a bit if its an item that would imply same hobbies or something but I the only place I’ve had drinks with randos is at a vegas card table and even that was uncomfortable.
“Hey, wife sent me, you have some ‘lamp’ I think?”
“Yeah wife sent me, she said this is the lamp.”
“Lol wives amirite?”
“Yeah lol, and right when I’m trying to watch the damn Hawks game today!”
“Oh Hawks fan huh? I want to watch that game too, wanna hit a sports bar and grab a few brews over it?”
“Yeah let’s go, got a B-Dubz down the road.”
End scene.
followed by a cinematic sex scene wrapped up with a lamp cut and this guy flopping around it?

I still don’t understand sports fans and how they interact with each other.
“Did you see that ludicrous display last night?”
How do you have a football site and NOT list the NFL or college teams as an option? I do t recognize any of the leagues on that list.
Because the rest of the world insists, wrongly, on calling soccer football, and handegg “american football,” even though that’s an emo band and not a sport. Also probably because the original joke from the IT Crowd was about soccer.
The thing about Arsenal is, they always try to walk it in!
imply same hobbies or something
They’re both into the same team so probably wearing a Jersey or something for game day. Something to talk about. The situation with the spouses was also an easy ice breaker.
Kind of rude of the wife’s to send them out when the game is going to be on.
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