I’d share but the court case is still pending.
Just got one going on now.
An extended family group chat that was 99% baby photos until one person posted photos of their kids at a protest this weekend and then the chuddy trad-wife sov-cits in the family threw a fit.
They all left the chat and said they’ll only be reachable on Facebook.
Oh darn. All the shucks.
Now that is what i call an efficient way to filter out the trash from your group chat.
Ahhh the WhatsApp Paradox
For every chat group you’re in, there is a separate group that exists without you in it
That’s not a paradox, that’s the group chat power set theorem
Incidents in my groupchats usually end up with somebody arrested tbh…
You can’t just say that and drop the mic! Tell us what happened!
i probably couldnt live Vegan, or even vegetarian. like i eat meat with almost every meal.
I was able to switch myself and my family to vegetarian thanks to how good plant based meat alternatives have gotten. If you haven’t yet, I highly recommend trying out Impossible meat products. Their burgers put in an air fryer are indistinguishable from real meat for me, same with their ground beef.
I’ve been able to cook all of my family’s favorite meat based recipes with impossible meat with no changes to the recipe, and all of them, who are life-long meat eaters, tell me they can’t tell a difference.
It’s certainly an inconvenient hurdle to clear to become vegetarian, let alone vegan.
All starts with being convinced that there is something wrong with eating meat, and usually the conscience takes it from there.
It also doesn’t help that our governments subsidize the meat and dairy industries to the point where they are some of the cheapest for people. Remove those subsidies, and people will start to see a reason to make the switch.
And the cheese. Don’t forget the cheese.
I’ve been vegan now for seven years and I literally just did it because I got tired of fucking with animals. I went from full-on carnivore to 100% vegan in a week; compared to quitting nicotine or even caffeine (easy) becoming vegan was by far the easiest life change I’ve ever made.
(Honestly I don’t know why anyone would consider it hard: you just stop eating animal products.)
see thats the problem most of the things that i like to eat are animal products. some of them have like 1 or 2 vegan alternatives in the stores, most of them, like kebab dont (within 30 minutes of my home)
like i understand the reasoning, i just never could with the limited alternatives present.
especially when there are a total of 3 vegetables i can eat without needing to throw up
Yah, that’s the wrong approach. ‘Meat alternatives’ are generally ass. Just eat whatever you usually eat that doesn’t need to have meat in it. Black bean tacos, donuts, and cheese pizzas are vegetarian, ya know. Although you will of course have to eat a salad once in a while (horror) to not get scurvy.
The thing about growing up with a meat-based diet, as most of us did, is that meat is always the focal point. Meals are basically cooking some meat, and then adding a couple of sides.
And so when people try to go vegetarian or vegan they are stuck in a way of thinking that is like “what do I substitute the meat with? What’s the vegetarian alternative to chicken??” - and without meat the style of cooking they are accustomed to falls apart, their meals are pathetic, and they don’t know what to do. And so people think “I can never give up meat!”
Vegan cooking that just tries to “replace” meat will never be as successful or delicious as vegan cooking that has it’s own identity. To cook well in a vegetarian or vegan way you need to re-evaluate what kind of dishes work, and how you cook. Roasting and searing brings out sweetness and creates texture. Spices kick up the flavour. Sauces bring it together.
I am not actually vegan myself, though I try to eat meat-free a lot of the time. I am fortunate to live in a city that has a lot of vegetarian and vegan food. This is some of the menu from a vegetarian restaurant I like:
Ravioli - Spiced celeriac filled ravioli, sage brown butter, apple & chilli salsa, parmesan cheese & walnut crumb (contains nuts)
Crown Prince Squash - Roasted crown prince, seared oyster mushroom, pear ketchup, Wensleydale blue cheese & walnut crunch (ve option available)(gf)
Fennel - Confit fennel, spiced red wine poached quince, labneh & mint & walnut dukkah (ve option available) (nuts)(gf)
Romanesco Cauliflower - Roasted cauliflower, soy & cauliflower purée, walnut & red pepper dressing & crispy chilli oil (ve) (nuts)
All utterly delicious! :)
And I have to ask - what is it about vegetables that makes you need to throw up? Is that a medical issue or did you just grow up in a house where vegetables didn’t exist?
i think its a sensory issue, because for example i dont mind the taste of onion, but the second i feel it in my mouth i reflexively need to throw up. this goes for a LOT of food, and the food i can eat, needs to be prepared in a few specific ways. rare steak? throw up. well done? delicious. raw carrot? throw up. boiled carrot slices? tasty. and so on and so forth
Congrats and respect!
Becoming vegan was very easy for me. It’s essentially a matter of the straw breaking the camels back.
Once I got to the point of “yeah, this is fucked, I don’t want to be part of this horror show anymore” I simply didn’t want to eat meat.
Right on bro. I actually do amatuer MMA, and after switching to vegan I was finally able to surpass the plateau I hit, and set new personal bests in the big three, squat, deadlift and bench press.
Holy moly does a vegan diet give you a lot of energy. Never felt better.
Haha, look at all the envious fat asses giving me downvotes. Fucking losers.
But eating meat does not involve fucking animals in the process? What kind of weirdo butcher you were going to.
I said “fucking with animals” but you already knew that you troll.
Damn, someone’s on a hare trigger. It was just a joke mate I got no beef with you.
Oi maybe you should buy them a beer tho
It was beef but I guess I talk more about beer than beef for the autocorrect
Look up cow insemination.
I gradually ate less and less meat over 5 years. In the beginning I was just trying to reduce my ecological impact so I cut out beef and pigs first. Perfection is the enemy of the good; if the reader is daunted, then I suggest you just commit to one little thing at a time.
I’ve been vegan for four years and honestly, while it was practically not difficult for me, there was a pretty big mental hurdle I had to get over. It sounds silly in retrospect, but I literally mourned foods that I thought I’d never be able to eat. Turns out I still eat all the foods I like, just with small adjustments to make them vegan. So glad I switched. Best decision I ever made.
Honestly I don’t know why anyone would consider it hard: you just stop eating animal products.
Maybe you have a different definition of vegan. Most say “vegan” means no animal products at all. It requires a ton of research to avoid constant minefields, because animal products can be in everything. Dyes, scents, preservatives, flavors, polishes, powders, etc… Even fresh fruit can be non-vegan, because sellers will polish their fruit with beeswax or shellac to make it more shiny, and give it a better shelf life.
I’d do it too if only because it’s heathier, but almost every recipe I know has meat in it that’s pretty hard to replace, it wouldn’t be easy. Maybe if/when meat gets more expensive, I might give it a try.
Why wouldn’t you just try other recipes? I wouldn’t want to go back to the garbage I ate as a meat eater anyway; there is so much variety out there that doesn’t depend on eating animals.
There is, but it’s a massive effort. I do try it sometimes and I do have more vegan recipes than before, but I can’t just replace meat in my meat stew with tofu. The more time passes the more vegan recipes I have in my repertoire. I do try to avoid red meat and replace it with chicken or fish though, honestly I care more about the health aspect than the ethical one.
Why was this such an unpopular comment???
Because many of the readers here see it as an ethical issue.
Their comment wasn’t making judgements of others, it was just a statement of personal feelings. On a memes community no less.
I get frustrated on Lemmy seeing stuff like this. Downvoting a completely innocent comment cause they have a different belief only makes their beliefs look dumb.
Have a conversation and let that conversation rise to the top of the comments.
I see this and think whoever is downvoting has such a fragile world view that it will break if they see a comment that offers a different take.
Because many of the readers here see it as an ethical issue.
I just want to point out that the “pro lifers” and trans phobes also think their position is an “ethical” one, and all their decisions are driven by that. Doesn’t make them right just cause they think they’re doing the ethical thing.
Look I’m not a vegan, I was just trying to answer your question, but you’re begging the question really hard.
In what way am I begging the question? I was using your answer as a basis for my comment.
I would love to know why that comment got so many downvotes. I can’t think of a good reason why.
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Btw, I recognize you were just giving a theory and not necessarily downvoting for that reason. But it seemed like the correct reason as well.
Because it’s only a completely innocent comment if you accept the premise that consuming meat is not harmful.
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Looks like you’re doing a bit of venting here but…
Wut
Yeah, sorry about that. Honestly, the whole situation is stupid and not worth the tax it’s putting on me.
Real food has meat in it
All hail Ron Swanson. Truly, what an original thought.
Real food tastes good, my favorite Indian restaurant has some of the greatest food I’ve ever eaten, without a trace of meat
No I’m not vegan, I like meat, but it’s not a necessity in everything
As a person who loves eating meat (fish and chicken mostly) I agree that I love some veg dishes
Fun fact! In English, the word meat does not include fish (at least usually). You can thank the Catholics for that one.
At this point in American English, there is no question that meat includes fish.
I think it should, but I don’t think it does. The first definition that shows up when I search the word: “The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.” It explicitly excludes fish, though I do think poultry is generally considered meat, so maybe this isn’t perfect. Every definition that is about flesh from a creature seems to exclude fish though.
The distinction of fish not being meat is the reason why the pescetarian diet exists. It’s a diet next to vegetarian, but allows fish. The don’t eat “meat.”
And we eat wayyyy too much of it. Partly because it’s so prevalent that it’s the default in most meals.
You don’t have to go vegetarian to skip the meat at Taco Bell that you hardly notice anyway.
People always say they couldn’t give up a good steak, but we’re mostly not eating steak, we’re eating low quality processed meat and you could swap that with other protein and not notice.
Yeah, if people kept eating steak at the same rate, but reduced or stopped eating all the garbage meat, they and the world would be a healthier happier place. I’m not against eating meat, but I am against they typical western, especially American, focus on eating so much of it.
my favorite Indian restaurant
real food has meat in it
The Rizzler
Doesn’t really check out with your prejudices
There are only two kinds of people I have prejudice against. vegans, and the ruling class
The weak eat meat. 2nd class protein filled with fat and cholesterol.
No wonder almost 80% of Americans are fat sacks of shit.
Ding dong your opinion is wrong.
I would be vegan if all the food i like wouldn’t have an animal product in it, also i don’t really feel enough empathy toward animals so i don’t have that emotional push :(
I hate that the industry of meat do bad things and polute but also i don’t want to stop eating 80% of the things i like, i try to eat meat bought from local stores, also, cheer to all vegans that did the “transition”
Hey at least you’re being honest, not telling us how much you love animals while you’re eating them. Do you like impossible burgers?
I never tried one because where i live they don’t sell many vegan alternatives to meat, if i get the hands on one i will try it! Maybe it can be a good replacement? I mean, if it taste the same who care.
I would not be surprised if my old coworker-friends started a separate group chat without me after the nth, “Maybe you should come to one of these protests” and “Please at least read the wikipedia summary on this historical topic before you start going off about it” message from me.
They’re fine people but they’re also kind of very… apolitical.
There’s a time and a place?
aaand that’s why I’m in no group chat. Not even in the family group chat. They kept adding me and I kept leaving immediately. Everybody got angry with me. A couple of months ago something hapened and the grouo is over. I don’t know what happened because I was not there. Nobody is angry with me and I’m not angry with anyone. say NO to group chats
I’m the admin of our group chat and I have a “no social media shares or political talks” or muted.
family photos and announcements.
Rich high school friend shared a newspaper clipping with us (in the high school group) in which he was featured. Apparently he had a car accident with a girl in the seat next to him, and had suffered mentally for it over the guilt of crippling the girl. The initial reaction of the group was “ohh, so sorry you had to go through that”.
Later, once it sunk in that a) why was this featured in the newspaper at all, and b) his family is very rich, I think we all came to the understanding that he had basically crippled a girl with his reckless driving, could not fix the problem with money, and so in order to help mitigate against a future court case or to discredit the girl, his family paid for a sob piece in the press.
He was your typical rich kid: fast car, no consequences, if someone comes up with a joke he will steal it and claim it as his own. Shit eating grin, until you have nothing you can offer him so he goes and talks to someone else.
That’s the least problematic result. "We all love meaty food and we know you don’t so we didn’t invite you to the Delicious Meat Showcase.’
Seems considerate? “We didn’t want to annoy you with photos of something you despise so we created a separate channel to do just that but nothing else.”
Only if she did actually despise meat. I am in a few discords with vegans and vegetarians and we all just post food photos regardless.
I’d say the issue is more that the group was secret and had a stupid name.
Edit: people who stalk decent folks comment history to mass downvote should be executed.
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The name is clever!
Vegans supply their lack of animal protein with human attention.
Idk most vegans I know try not to talk about it and sometimes even hides it due to stigma.
It’s the meat heads obsessed with the topic. The only reason most vegans would mention their food preference is because food is part of most peoples life’s 3 times a day. But when discovered the questioning is relentless.
And people always forget. “Why do vegans go on and on about it?” Because we want to be able to eat? For my stag do, my brother forgot THREE times to get me vegan products. THREE. And then complained because I “mention it too much”…I just wanna eat!
How do you know someone’s not vegan? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
I respect animals but I want to keep eating meat, so I tried looking for, you know, more ethical farms.
The best I could find is a chicken that lives a year before it’s slaughtered (compared to 60 days or less for factory farming), roams and isn’t caged.
It costs 8-12 times more than the cruelty chicken.
God damn.
Have you tried impossible type meats or even lab grown meat? I’m not sure how easily you can get the lab grown stuff or if it’s inexpensive enough for decent folks.
My previous comment should suggest that I look for healthy, natural products.
Impossible burgers is Ultra Processed Foods. Famously even South Park made an episode about it.
Lab grown meat will be the same (because it has to be cheaper than meat to be produced on scale, and because even if it starts healthy it’s quality will inevitably go down to make as cheap to produce as possible)
“I respect animals” is what I was going by. Decent folks would just buy non meat.
Interesting that people on either side are being accused of being obsessed when it’s the literal subject of the post we’re discussing under
In any post about veganism, you’ll get two types of idealist. People who make this unilateral sacrifice to help the world, and people who get defensive about not making yet another unilateral sacrifice. And they both have a lot to say.
if it wasn’t for that vegan teacher and other in the loud minority…
Holly seeing the comments on this post is crazy and some people would do good to touch some grass.
Yep. Yet another useless flame war over dietary preferences while missing the original joke.
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I was hoping to read a collection of people’s group chat incidents. This sucks.
Meatheads love to ruin everything.
Most comments are by people talking about going vegan or vegetarian, what are you on about?
Professional victim while blaming everyone else, and also trying to use cute slurs
Being a single-issue conversationalist
Don’t start
If you actually pay attention you can see the meatheads started every argument.
So shut the fuck up.
I see a total of two shitheads commenting live bait and for every one of those, at least three people are shitting on them when they could’ve just downvoted and moved on.
If your point is “who’s starting it” rather than who’s fueling it, it’s disingenuous and overly generous.
“I should be able to post but you shouldn’t be able to reply”
Exactly. These idiots post offensive shit with no other point than harassment, then cry like babies to the mods when people tell them to fuck off.
Dude /Dudette, what’s wrong with you? We aren’t here on xitter, where you get to dunk on others for some internet points. I know everybody has a bad day, but please act civilized and have a little dececy. It’s not that difficult and you’ll get your point accross easier if you don’t go fronting people 24/7.
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You must lead a charmed life
Not in these comment replies tho
FFS we are talking about the other comments in these replies.
meatheads
i regonize that yapper.
Looks like the average reddit user.
This posts comment section is literally
Just because you couldnt live without Meat dosent mean you cant respect some ones choice to not eat it, change my mind.
Ikr.
It’s a meme… Laugh. Or don’t?
What if I laugh and don’t?
